I have this crazy dream of holding occasional weekend retreats on the ranch where guests would experience a slice of ranch life, cook together in groups, go on photography expeditions, and relax.
See, folks, I have no friends, no life, and no interaction with the outside world at all, and the only way I can think to remedy the situation is to hold these retreats. Teehee! I kid. I think.
See, we have this guest house on our ranch. We call it The Lodge.
We’ve used it for years for family or groups of friends that come to visit because Marlboro Man and I turned our only extra bedroom into a workout room and have no place to put anyone. Physical fitness, we reasoned, is much more important than family.
The Lodge is in a great location…
It overlooks a lot of our ranch.
And it has some nice qualities:
A big, comfortable living room…
A lllllllong dining table…
A meeting room…
Six bedrooms…
A roomy kitchen…
And, of course, a sweeping view of nothin’ but wide, open space.
Problem is, The Lodge is getting old.
The bathrooms are not only tiny…
They’re dated and falling into disrepair.
The kitchen, while spacious, has older appliances that aren’t very reliable. And when groups visit, it needs more industrial/commercial appliances and sinks to handle the load.
The balcony, which runs the length of the whole house, is getting rickety.
There’s been some rain damage in a couple of the bedrooms…
And overall, things are starting to look a little dingy.
Because we want to preserve it for posterity, because we would like to use it for more creative enterprises, and because we’re clinically insane, Marlboro Man and I are talking about embarking upon a major remodel of The Lodge. But before we get too far down the pike, I’d like to get your thoughts. You’re all smart, after all…and I’m not.
If you were to pack a bag and go to a rural retreat in a ranch setting—if the retreat involved early mornings with coffee brewing and warm, sticky cinnamon rolls, photographic journeys, cooking lessons, working ranch activities, and rest and relaxation—what sort of accommodations would you expect? If you were to stay in such a place, what things would be important to you?
What things would be essential? Internet access? Satellite TV? Spa treatments? Seven-course meals? Jacuzzi? Indoor plumbing? Running water? A pillow? A bed? A roof? What things wouldn’t be essential?
Some people are loosey-goosey when it comes to amenities; they’d sleep on a rock and be just fine. Others have a list of high expectations, everything from the thread count of the sheets to the blend of the coffee.
If you stayed in a lodge in the middle of nowhere, what would be important to you?
Thanks for your expertise!
Love,
Pioneer Woman
October 26th, 2007 at 4:30 am
My major want, need, necessity when travelling is a really good hot strong shower, I love comfy beds, nice linen and good food as much of the rest of you all …… but if I had to choose just one thing it would be a really good shower, it has to be roomy, lots of hot water, good strong jet, did I mention hot!!! When ever I need space, peace and quiet from my twin boys, husband, dog, cat anybody for that matter my place of solitude, my thinking space, my non thinking space…. you get the drift is the shower. I have been known on occaission to stay in the shower until the hot water has run to cold, as a child I used to sit on the floor of the shower for ages until I was hauled out… ok ok, that still happens!!! Well anyhow, in all my travelling years the one thing that I notice in accomodation is the shower. One of my first posts to you was asking if you had ever thought of a bed and breakfast type set up, I think you would do so well…. a photograhy retreat would be awesome too.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:30 am
I would totally stay there as is. But I am used to three-star European hotels with bathrooms that date way farther back than the ones pictured above.
I think you would definitely need to keep the ranch look with the wood panelling. I loved the style you did your bathrooms in.
As for amenities, wouldn’t the whole point of staying at a ranch be to get away from crazy city life? Spa treatments are nice, but I don’t think that would be the point.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:34 am
I agree with you Jennifer, the whole point of staying at a ranch would definately be to immerse yourself in the real day to day living…. not trying to recreate a city hotel.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:47 am
I agree with the others lots of good hot water.
Spruce up the bathrooms a litle and some sprucing up of the kitchen.
Looks pretty good to me already.
Where do I make my reservations?
Denise
October 26th, 2007 at 4:51 am
oh wow, this is exciting stuff
Well, being from nyc I can say that if I decided to stay at a ranch (and I WOULD!) I’d be looking for a chance to relax, a change of pace, fresh air and a cozy, unhurried atmosphere first and foremost. That said, I’d like a lot of activities to choose from.. horseback riding, ranch tours, photography expeditions, cooking lessons, showtunes karaoke LOL - you get the picture..
Hmm, some specifics.. a HUGE tub, totally luxe bedding, downhome comfort food, satellite tv, internet access (gotta stay connected), delicious coffee and breakfasts in the morning, fun things for the kids to do, a map of the area with points of interest. and although I wouldn’t expect a spa retreat, I wouldn’t turn down a brown sugar bubble bath - I’m thinking along the lines of homemade, cozy stuff for that country feel. You could even do a signature ranch goodie to leave for guests every night like the Doubletree hotel and their cookies
Sorry, this is so long, I’m a business consultant for salons and spas - I live for this stuff! 
October 26th, 2007 at 4:52 am
Kristen and Jennifer are right on - plenty of hot water - comfortable beds and furniture - make an awesome deck and keep the height of the rail such that it doesn’t block the view when sitting in chairs - love the charm and rustic look - that is rare so keep it.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:54 am
I’ve stayed in crappy rooms at conferences that cost $5,000 for four days. What you’ve pictured is quite beautiful and would satisfy my housing needs. the kitchen looks very good.
The idea of doing foodie conferences in a ranch setting is incredible. I think you’ll be very surprised by the interest in such metings. I’d also like to recommend two other ideas; executive blogging conferences and management retreats with photography and cooking, as well as calf castration classses.
I can’t be strong enough in my recommendation that Internet access is important.
I was an executive producer of conferences until I had a stroke on deadline five years ago and retired to life on a small mountaintop in Escondido Ca. Bsed on my experience I think you have a site with incredible potential. In addition to Internet access I’d also recommend that you make sure you check cell network availability.
I know of two people you should contact to start your conference ball rolling. I think both would be very interested in using your Lodge for small executive conferences. one of the names is the person behind Federated Media, John Battelle. the other is my old boss at the Demo conferences. If you’d lilke more info pop over to my blog and ping me at the email link and I’ll provide you with contact information.
I love your blog, Ree. Keep it up!
Best from fire surrounded Escondido, CA.
Jim Forbes
October 26th, 2007 at 5:02 am
If I were going to bring my family to a ranch, it would have to feel rustic and charming. I would want to take plenty of pictures, ride horses (especially for my little kids!) That reminds me… something to do for kids! They would love to see the cows and how a ranch works and the tractors, barns, other kids to play with, etc.
I would love to bring my family down there for a little vacation, it sounds like fun. We live around a lot of dairy farms and my kids love going there for milk and cheese but I bet they would love to see some real ranch cowboys! My son wants to be cowboy when he grows up but not my daughter - she would like to be cinderella
October 26th, 2007 at 5:12 am
Call me crazy but the people who want all the “fancy” junk would not be the type I want to come anyway. Make it nice enough that you would invite your grandma and grandpa and let all the sissies go some where else. They wouldn’t appreciate the workings of a ranch anyway. You don’t go to the city and expect to feel like you are on a ranch so why go to a ranch and expect it to be like being in the city?
Love your blog. Keep up the good work. I enjoy all the pictures you post. When you can make a person feel like they are there you are doing a great job! Thanks
October 26th, 2007 at 5:12 am
I have to say that I would be thrilled to stay in your lodge exactly the way it is. But if I stayed in the “perfect” place the beds would not be rock hard and the sheets would be soft, the shower would have some water pressure, and there would have to be interent access (because I have withdrawal from blogging when I am vacationing). Tiny bathrooms are fine, as long as they are clean and bright. The porch would be my favorite feature. I could see myself reading there, napping there, eating there, dreaming there. I so want to come stay in your lodge! Can I ride and groom a horse, and have someone take a picture of me riding?
October 26th, 2007 at 5:13 am
Hot shower and comfy bed… that’s all I need! So when can Tim & I come for a ranching vacation????
October 26th, 2007 at 5:13 am
Can I come? Can I come!
I would agree about the bathrooms - I always say to my husband that I would rather stay home than “downgrade” to go away. I also really like a nice comfortable bed because I hate to come home from being away and feel exhausted because I haven’t slept well. I think I would do the front porch too because I bet that would get a lot of use….
Leave behind the satellite, internet, etc….
October 26th, 2007 at 5:15 am
I also think you should keep the ranch feeling of the lodge. The main things I want in lodging is a comfortable bed with crisp clean sheets and a bathroom that is clean and fresh and has a hot shower. When you update the bathrooms keep them clean and simple that you can keep them easily clean and looking fresh.
Food wise, if I was on a working ranch retreat, I would want good fresh food you would find on a ranch, nothing too fancy, your basic stick to your ribs home style meals.
Also I think you need to have internet access, for your photos retreats, everyone will want to work on and send out the photo the photos they took during the day. Also I can’t live without being online with my laptop , even for a day. LOL!
October 26th, 2007 at 5:15 am
Oh man. I am getting all excited. That would make my year to be able to pack my bags and head out to a ranch like yours.
For us, I would have to say as far as amenities …Wifi, clean bathroom and bedroom, desk and good coffee. A private place to sit to drink the good coffee and reflect in the morning. Other than that your wide open spaces outside would be calling.
The lodge looks beautiful. Please put me on your mailing list
and email me when I can make a reservation.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:21 am
I WANT TO COME VISIT!
What things would be essential?
Internet access? YES
Satellite TV? WOULD BE NICE
Spa treatments? NOT NECESSARY (for me)
Seven-course meals? JUST SOME GOOD GRUB & SNACKS
Indoor plumbing? AN OUTDOOR HOTTUB WOULD ROCK. RELAX AND WATCH THE STARS
Running water? HOT SHOWERS
It sounds like an awesome idea. I think it would be best to just be flexible. Everybody will want something different, so allow the PW Ranch Experience to be customized for each group. Some may want to ride. Some may want to hike or explore. Some may want cooking or photography lessons.
Have fun & GOOD LUCK!
October 26th, 2007 at 5:25 am
I LOVE the idea of “The Lodge!” Honestly, I think “keepin’ it real” is best. Yeah, we dorks all need internet and all of that. And clean bathrooms and sheets are essential. But we would expect it to be “Ranch Life.” Unless there’s an Outback nearby, three meals and some snacks would be necessary. But not seven-course meals. Just stuff that you’ve showed us that you cook.
Loving it!!!! Best of luck! I can’t wait to hear the final plan.
Maria
www.jubileeonearth.com
October 26th, 2007 at 5:30 am
Yes, to all of the above. A good shower and tub with the good water pressure is essential. The porch? Oh yeah! The “day in the life of a ranch,” cooking and photography activities are the things I’d want. Satellite TV I could do without, but internet access would be essential. It’s just my opinion, but you and MM really should do this. But you better make sure it is something you really want to do, because this is going to take off in a bigger way than you can imagine! I’ll definitely be there :)!
October 26th, 2007 at 5:30 am
i like updated awesome bathrooms - something special that I don’t get everyday - spa treatments not necessary -
nice mattress and linens -
and a chance to peek into the life of someone who lives totally different than I do-
we get too caught up in our everyday lives and have blinders on i think sometimes - to what is really important and what is not -
this is one of those things you don’t realize till your older - and find out what really is important in life. Would love to stay at your lodge -
October 26th, 2007 at 5:32 am
hi
I would want my own modern bathroom a must! A good bed, it doesn’t have to be five star but not your local “I will leave the light on.” You think you can live without TV and internet but I just returned from Europe and boy did I miss both in my room. Sounds like you are always thinking. Go for it.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:34 am
I’m getting ready to head out now, but I’ll be thinking about it while I drive. (3 hours round trip devoted just to this if I can keep my ADD in check.)
We’ve thought about doing something similar, except we don’t have a guest house at the moment and we’d be kicking kids out of their rooms right now. We’ve also got to get the house finished. You and your family (and Hyacinth’s too) can come any time, of course. And I would love to just come and live at the lodge for a bit to help with the remodel as well;o)
Okay, focus. The question. First half-caffeinated thoughts are that I wouldn’t want a lot. Coffee, clean towels, clean bedding, warm blankets, simple but satisfying meals, and good company. I’d decorate the inside of the house to reflect ranch life and the beauty that surrounds you. The house should be in harmony with its surroundings. Those are the things that make it special. Why make it look like a posh hotel in a big city? You can go to the big city for that. It can be classy, but above all, keep it comfortable and cozy.
Oh, and as much as I like the lodge at Woolaroc, don’t go overboard with the taxidermy like that. It’s okay to visit during the day, but can you imagine sleeping there with all those fake eyes looking at you through dead animal heads? What if you had to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night and walk among them? I think I might prefer to wet the bed! Otherwise, I think the lodge at Woolaroc is very good inspriration.
One more thought, I would decorate with little bits of ranching history. I know it’s something that would interest me as a guest to look at. It gives a personal touch and fits with the setting.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:34 am
You’d make a killing with quilt retreats. As a quilter, I know that the heaven of such a place is to get away from everyday life and indulge our passion, so we don’t ask for much except that our own kids and/or spouses are not there needing something of us. Internet access would be a bonus, but probably not used. Mobile phone access would be important. A comfy bed, a decent shower, good lighting, and lots of electrical power for sewing machines & irons. And comfy task chairs for hours-on-end quiltmaking. Ranch tours and provided meals are a huge bonus.
I know my idea takes away from your reason for doing this (ranch life), but we’re always looking for a great place to meet. And if you need quilts for all those beds, let me know ;>
October 26th, 2007 at 5:36 am
Hot shower and a nice jacuzzi bathtub.
Big soft towels
Nice comfy bed
Good basic food
Coffee pot (starbucks would be nice but hey I’ll take anything)
Ability to ride horses
Nice comfy chairs on the porch to watch the sunrise/sunset
No Internet
TV and dvd player
no phone
And most important how do I get put on the waiting list because I want to bring my family and take tons of pictures of the cows
October 26th, 2007 at 5:38 am
If you’re thinking of having guests, make sure you have industrial strength toilets (you know, the ones that look like they could suck down a small child when they flush)or you’ll be plumbing alot.
Thread count isn’t as important as cleanliness. And I’m big on no bugs. Yeesh.
TV would be nice but not really a necessity.
Internet access is a must for us because of my husband’s job (and how would I blog?).
Kitchen should be up to date.
Hot water is good.
Low water pressure is bad.
Quaint is good.
Rickety is bad.
Get your insurance agent to do a liability assessment. That may determine what needs to be done and what can wait. (Guest falling through old porch, very bad.) Sad to say you have to think about that stuff, but you do.
Sorry if I’m rambling. No caffeine yet.
So, when are you gonna have a photo contest to give away a weekend at the lodge?
October 26th, 2007 at 5:38 am
Comfy furniture and nice beds.
When we looked at condos at the beach, I didn’t want any of that rickety wicker furniture inside. DH is a big and tall man so I don’t want dinky, uncomfortable furniture.
Also, the older we get, our backs are picky about the beds. We have been known to go home early from vacation just because we couldn’t handle the beds.
DH would tell you satellite is essential. I wouldn’t care about that.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:38 am
What a great idea! My husband and I have stayed at a working ranch in Montana a few years ago, and I would have to say that I loved NOT having any internet, phone or TV. Great food is a must,(doesn’t need to be gourmet though, just good food, ha!) along with clean bedding, and a decent bathroom. Don’t need to have Jacuzzi’s, seem’s like that just creates problems with everyone wanting to get in it at the same time.. No spa treatments necessary, I just love the true feeling of living on a ranch, want to experience it as it is, you can always go to a 5 star hotel for all the other stuff. Good luck on your project!
October 26th, 2007 at 5:40 am
I think anyone going to a ranch for vacation expects a rustic experience! If you’d be doing cooking lessons in the Lodge…you’d definitely want to update the kitchen to handle a larger load. I wouldn’t really want rain water dripping on me during the night…so you might fix that too
The main things I would want would be good food, a hot shower at the end of the day, and of course internet access (can you imagine how many posts I’d have to read if I went a whole week without reading blogs! lol).
October 26th, 2007 at 5:41 am
I said a long time ago on your site that we would have our bags packed and ready to go if you ever offered “ranch trips”. So, with that said and not even knowing the amenities I could be easily satisfied.
We do ride horses and of course would love to come try and work cattle….experiencing it ALL would be key for us. On the Lodge side, it looks great…I would say really comfy beds and bedding, hot showers that will penetrate thick girly hair after sweating on a ranch and internet access so I can blog about my trip would be key as well.
Looking forward to a trip for me and my daughter!
October 26th, 2007 at 5:44 am
My wants and needs …. almost every one has said the same … a good hot shower with plenty of water pressure. and a comfy bed. I like my internet and cell phone of course and I hate to cook so would like some one else to do that. when can I come??????
October 26th, 2007 at 5:48 am
1) It’d be great (and I know y’all do this anyway) to restore it in keeping with its heritage–the ceilings are spectacular, that dining table soooo inviting, and probably the ceramic tile floors just need a good cleaning (or do over
).
2) It’d be cool to have each of the six bedrooms as “themed”; let each one have a distinct feel. For instance, maybe use your favorite photos as your guidelines (landscapes, macro close ups, ooooo, the BUGS!–spiders, grasshoppers, etc, horses, cows….etc.). I think it’d be awesome if your had one of your photos enlarged to mural size–not just poster–in each room.
3) In addition to great showers (water pressure), linens are important. And wonderful pillows. After “all” folks would be doin’ at the ranch, they’d need a comfortable place to sleep.
4) “Little” touches make the difference–wait, nevermind. THOSE are the details, not about renovation (I’ll wait til the reno is done and you’re asking for those…in case you’re curious now, and, well, you know where to find me
).
5) Coffee is important. GOOD coffee and real half-and-half is VERY important. I’d have a spot where folks can get a “hit” any time of the day (or night). And, I guess tea, too, though I’m not that high bred :/.
6) Lots of windows–your views must be spectacular.
7) Who can argue with spa treatments (what if husbands wanna come for a rodeo experience, and the wives don’t wanna bruise their behinds, so this’ll keep both of ‘em happy? hypothetically speaking, of course).
9) No TV in rooms, maybe a central room or two if people need that. For heaven’s sakes, WHY WOULD THEY NEED TV?
10) Room to move around in the kitchen, especially if you might host cooking schools. I’ve been to a GREAT place here that has a huge demonstration area with a large, arched bar for maybe 20 “students” to sit and observe (then taste
). And mirrors on the ceiling (in the cooking area, not the bedrooms).
Have you already begun? The sides of the cooktops looked “under construction”.
Ok…this is enough…you’re only gonna get a few hundred (thousand) suggestions. But it sure is fun thinkin’ with someone else’s budget in mind!
October 26th, 2007 at 5:48 am
Loner Says:
October 26th, 2007 at 5:12 am
“Call me crazy but the people who want all the “fancy” junk would not be the type I want to come anyway.” …”let all the sissies go some where else.”
Well, now I don’t know if you’re considering nice, comfy bedding and good water pressure/nice tub to be “fancy” but when people are paying good money to vacation they usually want a bit of comfort, good food, etc even on a ranch.. if I wanted to sit in a small tub and rough it, I’d stay home (nyc) and just go ride the horses in central park
October 26th, 2007 at 5:48 am
No internet access or cable t.v. That would be the whole point - to get away - to be unreachable to the office!
I’d want a comfortable bed with a beautiful, old fashioned quilt, a hot, roomy shower, and rustic but comfortable furniture. Rustic - not dingy or dated.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:49 am
How WEIRD is that??? When I typed the #8 with a side parenthesis, it made a sunglass smilie…go figure. I could’ve never figured out how to do that in a million years :/. Hmmmm, let’s see if it works again:
October 26th, 2007 at 5:50 am
yep
October 26th, 2007 at 5:55 am
Internet- definitely
spa quality bathroom- definitely
vegetarian food options- Based on your food blog (admittedly a small proportion of your repertoire) there is little you make that a vegeatarian could eat.
Does your m-i-l have a green bathroom where she lives now? very curious.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:55 am
Are you kidding? I was drooling over the whole thing just the way it is. I do like the idea of internet access though…
So, when’s the first retreat???
October 26th, 2007 at 5:56 am
Comfortable bed is top priority. Internet access is next. Maid service for the rooms and public areas each day. Good coffee. Would rather not share a bath with other guests.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:57 am
When are you going to start taking reservations???? And just for some guidance/ideas, have you gone to www.maryjanesfarm.com? She does something similar, with her Paydirt Farm School.
I agree with previous posters-a good hot shower, a decent bed, and internet. Don’t want a 5 star hotel feel, if I wanted that, I am only 30 minutes from NYC and can stay at the Plaza!!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:01 am
This is my first post, but I couldn’t resist the urge to comment this time! What a FABULOUS idea! I’m ready to make my reservation NOW!
I think you need to stick with a lodge-y feel. Rustic all the way, but comfortable and inviting. Comfy beds with good quality, but not fancy bedding. I think tubs are a necessity in addition to showers, esp. if you will have children/families as guests.
I agree that internet access will be essential, esp. for your photog retreats! DH and I honeymooned at a log cabin B&B in CO. We did not have TV or phone in our room, and that was before internet access was important. (There was a TV room down the hall) We loved it! No loud TV’s blaring, no phones ringing….that’s how I picture a vacation at your ranch. Getting away from the busy-ness of life and enjoying the view.
One more thing to keep in mind - handicapped accessibility. We have a disabled daughter (wheelchair) and would LOVE to come to your ranch. (We have 5 kids, with a 6th on the way - yes, I’m crazy!)
Oh, and how can I forget the food!
Simple, delicious and hearty. Just like your “regular” food.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:02 am
Darling the house is better and bigger than our family home. I do see that others may want more than some. I agree that the bathrooms could be tidied (heck we have one old one) and that the kitchen appliances might need an upgrade to cope with larger groups. Everything seems enormous and I am sure that most who would be interested in visiting your home would be there for one of two reasons
1. To retreat and get away from it all
or
2. To experience ranch life.
Sounds fun to me.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:04 am
My husband won’t travel anywhere withOUT internet access. You see so many hotels offering FREE INTERNET that I’ll assume it’s popular with MANY other travelers as well.
I like the rustic look. It’s on a ranch… should be rustic and warm… and cozy. But I agree with most other posters… creepy bathrooms are an automatic turn-off. Nice, clean, updated bathrooms with great water pressure & plenty of hot water and top priority.
Keep up the good work… I know you will!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:08 am
The Lodge is great, I agree a few improvements are necessary. After a long day on the ranch, I would need comfortable, dry beds, a nice kitchen to enjoy my cooking lessons, and last but not least big roomy bathrooms. The only amenitity I would even consider would be a hot tub. It would sure be nice to be able to hobble bow-legged into some nice hot pulsating water. Please keep it RANCH like, what we don’t need is another LA-DE-DA SPA.
Love your tales of ranch life by the way.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:11 am
Internet access, yup. TV’s ok. Good beds.
And some mode of transportation other than horses. My hiney and ol’ Dobbins don’t get along.
And .. count me in. Of course, I do believe it’ll be necessary to divulge where you are. That’ll ease the travel quite a bit.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:15 am
Ree,
Back before marriage a friend and I backpacked through England, Wales, and Ireland and stayed at many a bed and breakfast. The most memorable ones were those that gave us a glimpse into life on their farms, a warm bed with a good shower, and a good cup of coffee in the AM.
The lodge is beautiful and I can see where you may need to do some sprucing up of the bathrooms and kitchen but I personally don’t feel a spa or internet access is a must - I think maintaining the original character of the lodge would be much better. Television is nice to watch late in the day when all of the touring/daily activities are over but it’s not a must - a good book would do just as well. Providing towels would be great but, again, I am used to traveling with my own as the places we stay in the outer banks of North Carolina don’t generally provide linens.
The place is beautiful!!! I love the idea of the photo expeditions. I’m definitely getting excited here - I think I would even venture getting on an airplane if it meant a visit to your ranch!!!
Good luck with whatever you do
October 26th, 2007 at 6:19 am
All I require is a clean place with great coffee and food and the view of the gorgeous Oklahoma scenery and skies. Wait … I just decribed my own little farm
All the other things are irrelevant because if that is what I wanted I’d go stay in a 5-star hotel. Except …. if I were staying for longer than a weekend I would need satellite internet so I could keep up with my work and keep my clients happy.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:21 am
Now I’m feeling just a little bit bad about myself, cause, if our roles were reversed, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t share!
Anyway, your other posters have said it all in terms of comfort, so I would just encourage you to (as Nike says) JUST DO IT…. I’m sure I’ not the only one of your regular readers that would jump at the chance to experience your lifestyle - if only for a weekend.
Hey! *light bulb goes off* maybe Josh could host single girls weekends?? (just kidding).
October 26th, 2007 at 6:22 am
I’m with most folks here. NOthing fancy required. Internet access is one of the bare necessities of life, as Baloo from the Jungle Book might say!
The lodge is awesome looking as is, just updating appliances and bathrooms would be plenty. Comfy beds, quiet spaces.
The decor is great as is. Be sure to leave the big picture up in the hallway. Made me think of the Ewings: Daddy, JR, Bobby, Ellie May.
I’d come in a heartbeat!
Evie
October 26th, 2007 at 6:22 am
Random foodie thoughts:
Add second fridge. This has always been a big help when there’s lots of people visiting. Enough cold drinks, space to store a 20 pound turkey, made ahead dishes for tomorrows meals, etc. Get a $100 good clean used one from someone that is remodeling. Oh, that’s you!
Go to a restaurant supply house next time you’re in a city and buy stuff for the lodge. You can get well built items like stock pots, cutting boards, mixing bowls, cooking utinsels, etc. for very low prices. These tend to be the simple no frills things that actually work rather than the “oh look it has an extra level for buttering pancakes when you’re upside down” consumer kitchen stuff.
A burr grinder, whole bean coffee, french press. I’ll be the first to admit that if I’m doing coffee for 8+ that a machine is easier.
How about an outdoor kitchen? As fancy as you like or just a big grill (BBQ), some propane burners and a prep area.
Handyman/designer sez:
I never like pulling the checkbook out, so…
Paint is inexpensive (kids are free labor BTW) and always makes things look better.
The public areas look a lot closer to comfortable casual country than the bedrooms & bathrooms.
Bedrooms : paint, change window treatments, update hardware on doors/windows , rethink lighting. New linens for beds - buy something simple and buy extra so it can all interchange.
Bathrooms : It’s checkbook time for those! I’ve wanted an outdoor shower for years. Maybe the luxor bathtub people envision is also outdoors?
Geek needs:
For high speed internet see if you can just run wireless from the main house on a big (outside) antenna.
A good quality cordless phone for those unfortunate conference calls.
A few spare extension cords / power bars. You’ll be amazed at how much plug in stuff some people bring to the country.
A nice networked printer at your house that guests can remotely print to. The company Brother make good ones.
For photo retreats have a desktop or laptop with a media card reader that everyone can copy pictures to and then burn CDs/DVDs. This makes it easy if there are multiple cameras that everybody will get a copy of all the shots.
A few extension cords, power bars, blank DVDs/CDs.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:22 am
When I think of going to a ranch for a retreat I think of it somewhat as a almost roughing it type experience. I don’t necessarily think of the actual living quarters as the roughing it part though that would be more of the day to day here’s what goes on at the ranch part. So I’d still want internet access, a hot shower, tv of some kind, telephone, a relaxing bed for those aching moments after the day to day what goes on at the ranch part and etc. I don’t think those are “necessary” but I’d like to stay connected with my own family and relax at the end of the day. I think your main concern would be making it safe and relaxing without a citified spa feel. On second thought you might like a citified spa feel…like Ree goes to her lodge to find solace….LOL
This is exciting news…we’ll all be watching and waiting for it to take shape.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:22 am
I agree with the hot water, but I would also need Internet connection and those 600 count sheets on the bed with a comfy quilt on top! I would spruce up the bathrooms and leave the rest alone……..It’s gorgeous. Of course, your good cooking would be the icing on the cake, or the cheese on the beans, whichever makes most sense! I’ll take a week in October………..
October 26th, 2007 at 6:24 am
Looks like a really nice place.
I love a nice, big bathroom and shower!! Anytime I first walk into a hotel room, I check out the bathroom.
Just a simple home-cooked meal for me. Nothing fancy. The kitchen would probably need new appliances. It doesn’t really matter about internet access for me, but maybe for others who have an online business that they want to check on. I’d probably be outside wandering around alot, checking things out, so I wouldn’t need satellite. Make sure the porch is more up-to-date for safety with rockers and a place to play checkers!!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:24 am
The living and dining areas look beautiful already. Bathrooms need some work. If I’m staying there with people I don’t know (which is fine), I’d REALLY want my own bathroom. So I think a private bath per guest room would be a must. I would also like having NO TV. Internet access a must but let’s skip Spongebob today kids and fraternize with the cows! You could have movies available (ya know–Silverado, Blazing Saddles, etc
but no cable tv.
I agree a hot tub would be a nice outdoor feature but if I want a spa vacation, I’ll go to a spa. Sign me up for ridin’, ropin’ & wrasslin’!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:26 am
If I’m going to stay at a ranch, I too want a really great bed, a great shower, and the ability to do as I please. No TV. No internet. (PLEASE!!!) Comfy furniture and a place to curl up and read. A slower pace and unstructured time. THAT’s a vacation.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:27 am
Ree, Comfy beds are a must! No yucky polyester bedspreads! Feather pillows! Enlarge the porch by major proportions, people will want to hang out there. Decorate with your beautiful photographs of ranch life. I agree with you that the kitchen appliances need to be updated. The bathrooms may be small but if they are clean and well-lit and in good repair then size doesn’t matter. How ’bout a personal turn-down service by a Marlboro Man look-a-like?!? Tee-hee.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:27 am
Updated bathrooms are all I would want changed. I think it is great looking as is besides that. Oh…and fix the deck.
When can my kids and I come visit : )
October 26th, 2007 at 6:28 am
Love the idea, when do I pack…would love to help with the renovations work as well!!! The one thing I would love is a big washer and dryer so I don’t have to haul home those dirty clothes, and believe me, I would be hands on getting dirty on the ranch or in the kitchen!!!! I would also love a little work area with a couple of computers/printers and a counter area to work on photos, blogging, notes….etc. Just a little area off to the side. I stayed in home in Alaska that converted a basement into 5 bedroom guest home for traveling nurses, Had two living areas, a laundry room, a hugh communial kitchen/dining area, it was great!! I would keep the bedrooms simple and neat, and the living area arranged like you have it, inviting and relaxing. The kitchen would be great with a long island for those student cooking/prep areas. What a fabulous idea….like I posted earlier, when do I pack!!!!
Love the idea
Debbi
October 26th, 2007 at 6:33 am
Gosh, that place is beautiful. I want a big, comfy bed, a strong, hot shower, and good coffee in the morning. I think every place should offer at least one king size bed, and no bed should be smaller than a queen size, in my humble opinion. The balcony - make it wider and have big rocking chairs available to sit and enjoy the view with that morning coffee. If you are taking names for a wait list - sign me up!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:33 am
I seriously wouldn’t go overboard on the remodeling. The place is pretty spectacular! I’d shoot for what NEEDS to be done. Remodel bathrooms, update appliances, balcony, roof/water damage, etc.
I’d offer internet access, especially if you might be hosting some hunter-type/businessmen or executives, which I could totally see happening, given the looks of the place. Maybe satellite TV if there is a family-type common area. Otherwise, I wouldn’t go too overboard with luxuries, since you want them participating in other activities around the ranch. I’d opt for comfort instead of luxury, I think. Maybe a nice hot tub on the patio, instead of a Jacuzzi bath?
What an awesome idea! Gosh, you could even rent that place out for weddings, where they could hold the rehersal dinner and perhaps even the reception, as well. I can so picture a nice, rustic type, outdoor chappel or gazebo, just for the occasion. That place has unlimited potential! Family reunions, high school reunions, ladies retreats, church retreats. OMGosh, my head is spinning at the possibilities.
For cryin’ out loud, you could even put in a golf course! *GASP* Your life has come full circle!!! lol
I’d say you could charge a pretty hefty fee for what you have in mind, if you target your advertising at the right groups/people.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:42 am
It sounds like a fabulous idea! I would want it to be comfortable — meaning comfortable bed, couch, chairs on porch; clean bathrooms; and good country cooking — nothing fancy with lots of snacks available. Internet would be nice and tv would not be a must for me.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:42 am
It is practically perfect the way it is.
What I would love is a really good religious retreat. Know any awesome Catholics?
October 26th, 2007 at 6:42 am
This is awesome. My husband and girls ALREADY want to MOVE out to your place to become permanent ranch hands. That’s been a dream of ours for a while. The Lodge sounds like a fantastic retreat, and I don’t think you have to get fancy at all! Like most of the comments have said, just spruce up the bathrooms and make the kitchen industrial! Bedrooms need to have that cozy down home feel…like a Bed and Breakfast! Anyone who comes to The Lodge is looking more for the experience it will provide. You are SO blessed to be surrounded by such beauty and serenity! Others long for that peace!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:43 am
Wow! I love the lodge as is, with its nostalgic furnishings, fixtures and ambience. And just so you know, I consider myself a self-proclaimed amateur expert on nostalgic ranch decor. So I’d just fix or replace the broken stuff and redo the bathrooms with durable fixtures that will withstand the hard use put to them by guests.
I too have enjoyed the retreats that have no TV, phone, radio or internet in the rooms. My favorite upscale lodge has a balcony that connects all the rooms from the outside, so when you sit outside you can socialize with your neighbors, or walk down the balcony to the end, where they serve drinks (very important, hehe). If necessary, you could install those evils (TV, radio, phone, internet) in one or more congregating/recreational areas indoors, rather than in individual guest rooms. As previous commenters have said, lots of hot water and good coffee are key.
Can’t wait to come and stay at your lodge!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:44 am
What a great idea! For me, a comfy bed, nice bathroom and if we get to “work the ranch” a nice hot tub at the end of the day. I hope you keep it “rustic” and country. Not too modern. I definately would consider coming out and staying with ya
October 26th, 2007 at 6:46 am
Looks fine to me!
Since you are obviously planning on changes …
A big shower with wall and ceiling showers.
Lots of high back rockers on tht porch.
A spot outside to sit at night around a big campfire.
Psssst … as I wrote before … a contest *wink*
October 26th, 2007 at 6:47 am
Go for it! Fix it up! Then check out: www.dogsledding.com/lodge-to-lodge_trips/photo_workshop.html
October 26th, 2007 at 6:48 am
I must agree with everyone else….A good bed and great shower is the way to go…..My family goes to a reunion every year in Upstate NY and it is so very rustic nothing fancy not even the bathrooms. The water comes from a well and smells like rotten eggs when you first turn it on…..Until this year none of our cell phones worked and it suited us just fine! I will give you a tip I stayed at the Double Tree in Manhattan and I must tell you whatever bedding they use was the best bed in the world! So go with your country atomosphere and I think you will have a hit! As for spa treatments NOT IN THE COUNTRY!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:48 am
The porch needs to be huge.
Does each bed room have a bath? How big is the hot water heater?
How big is your septic tank?
(You start having a lot of company and that could be exciting.)
Washer dryer ?
BIG REFRIGERATOR. where will we put all the wi.. drinks?
Leave it rustic in decor. I guess
a leaky roof could potentially be frowned on also.
OOOH this would be fun!!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:51 am
Fantasic!!! Love love love the idea.
Big beds and PRIVATE baths. I like things that feel luxurious, but look rustic — no urban chic (I have that in my home, and I can get it in the city), but on the other hand, I wouldn’t want the Disney version of sterotypical Wild West stuff either. Show us you’re vision of modern ranch life.
I think you’ll be booked for the next three years just with people from this blog.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:52 am
I’d want the basic comforts - hot water, comfy bed, nice pillows. Not many will be spending all of their time in their rooms - not with all the great activities. I agree with Evelyn on the rocking chairs, that sounds so relaxing. The Lodge looks pretty great as is, though I agree the bathrooms & kitchen could use some updating.
I’m ready to sign up right now….can I book for next Tuesday?
October 26th, 2007 at 6:54 am
I would totally stay there exactly like it is, if I didn’t have to sleep in one of the wet-from-the-rain beds. But I’d guess you’d just need to update the bathrooms and kitchen and make sure the porch isn’t falling off (I like the weathered look, as long as it’s strong). And go ahead and sign me up for the photography retreat. Just do it, because that’s EXACTLY the kind of vacation I’m looking for!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:55 am
Internet and cell phone capabilities. Comfy bed. Hot running water. Ranch food. Sitting porch. Coffee/tea. Check.
Forget about the spa and satellite TV.
Something not mentioned is a good projection system for your photography classes, because what would your classes be without a Photoshop tutorial? It could also be used for people to share their photos for critique and praise.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:56 am
As is is fine with me. I’m packing my bags!
I think it would be all about the view so definitely expand that porch so we can all take in those magnificent rainbows.
I’d do the bare minimum on the interior, update the bathrooms and the appliances, keeping the rustic charm. Affordable cotton sheets, a pillow, a hot shower and probably internet so I could e-mail the family to tell them I’m never coming home.
Seven course meals? Ppfft. I’d expect nothing more than cowboy food and a good margarita.
Seriously, no luxury required here. This is a pioneer experience, not a pampered L.A. trip.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:58 am
What a great idea. Before I began any renovations, I would check to see what the health and safty requirements are to operate a hotel or bed and breakfast. When you check with the fire marshall, make sure you check with the State and local fire marshalls because they sometimes have different rules. I would also make sure that my plans are approved by the fire marshalls before I embarked on making changes. If you are planning on serving food,, you sure ought to find out about the requirements that will be imposed by the Department of Health. When you begin renting to the public, there will be a lot of things required that are not required when you have family to visit. I’m sure I have only touched on a few of the monitoring agencies, but I’m sure someone can tell you about any other agencies you should contact.
My other suggestion would be to visit other people’s bed and breakfasts, and talk to them for advice. Most people who are doing this type of thing are willing to share their expertise, and think of what fun this research could be.
Since everyone else has covered the beds, showers, etc., I’ll skip that sort of thing. Good luck, it sounds like lots of fun.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:58 am
I agree with Robin that you could (should!) use some of your incredible photography to decorate the house, even do themed rooms. But you might want to check for phobias before putting anyone into the “bug room”. My thoughts:
Start with that porch/balcony outside. Make it roomy, with plenty of room to relax and deep enough to have nice outdoor furniture. Keep the railing at a height that won’t interfere with the view when you’re seated. And a hot tub out there would be perfect.
Inside, comfortable beds, choice of pillows, foam or feather, and bathrooms with tubs that have showers built into them. That way you can satisfy the bath takers and the shower takers. Definitely have Internet access. The ones who can’t live without it will be happy, and no one is forcing the rest of us to bring our computers, now are they?
Keep the ranch “style” - that’s what people would be looking for. From your pictures, the main living/dining areas are perfect just as they are. If you’re going to hold cooking classes, then you should probably get some expert advice on kitchens built to accommodate that.
What a gorgeous place it is, Ree! And what a great idea to put it to good use! (You do realize you already have a HUGE list of people who want to come…)
P.S. We tea drinkers are a picky lot, and usually travel with our own preferred brand of tea bags. But a china teapot - one of the squat, homey ones, not the fancy gold-leaf kind) in the kitchen cupboard is nice. And a kettle to boil water and pour from is a necessity. I HATE making tea with water boiled and poured from a pan.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:59 am
I think its a great idea and if you build it, or fix it, people will come!!
I am a simple “mini farm gal”, so my expectations are kind of low. LOL I know some “city people”, who think they would love to live the “simple life”, but when it comes down to it they want to bring much of the “city” with them when they go on vacation. I would not need internet access, cell phone service, satelite tv, hot tub, or 7 course meals. As a matter of fact, I have one of those things right now in my own home! I would much rather be out and about on the land and enjoying the exerperience.
Sorry, not much help here in the decorating dept. but I do think its a great idea and hope it all works out for you! :0)
October 26th, 2007 at 7:00 am
Plenty of hot water. Kitchen fully stocked with cooking stuff - pots, pans etc. Access to or permission to ride horses
and the 16 yr-old can shovel manure or anything physical 
:-) 
(they are lazy suburban CHICAGO area kids!!!)
When can we come? My kids are 16, 16, 14 and 11…the 14-yr-old girl is a babysitter, too
I will share my Rose Mazzone bar recipe if you let us know when you are open for business!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:03 am
Ree, you and MM are going to need someone to help you with all this because - they’re right - this is going to take off BIG. I volunteer to come live at your ranch and work for you.
I have 3 strapping boys and a handman hubby - we could totally help you bring your dream into reality. I’m a country girl stuck in urban hell - and we’ve been looking to get some land in the country. All we need is hearty food, a good hot shower and a sturdy bed.
Love your blog and your photography!!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:03 am
Part of the charm of such a place is no high tech electronics and very little “frill”. I would not waste any time or money on internet or anything like that. I say fix the leak, update any non-working appliances, fix the porch, and maybe “freshen” it up a little with new curtains, comforters, etc. But nothing major in my opinion. I have stayed in many mountain cabins, and this looks just perfect to me. When can I come? I have often had dreams of maybe visiting a cattle ranch like yours. So I absolutely love the idea, Ree!
Kristi
October 26th, 2007 at 7:05 am
Having work at several camps, I’d say your lodge is good the way it is. I would repair the roof and water damage. Make sure there is lots of water pressure. Lots of chairs on the porch to read in and internet access would be nice. No TVs and no cell phone access. I’ll come cook for you.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:08 am
My Quilt Guild (in south central Texas) hosts an annual retreat for members and looks for retreat/conference type facilities very much like your “ranch house” for the retreats -away from the hustle and bustle, good food (it always tastes better when someone else cooks, eh?), comfortable beds, nice atmosphere and a room to sew with good lighting.
I’ve been on 3 retreats now, and have never heard a quilter ask about internet service, or spa-like treatments of any kind. We usually bring so much of our own snack food that a chocolate on the pillow wouldn’t even be noticed. (I’d probably think I had dropped it there!) We don’t require daily maid service or sheet changes, but we do like fresh towels and good water pressure. And we like to use our cell phones to call home to check on our “punks” (and their dads) occasionally. We generally aren’t expecting to be entertained, but have been to facilities where horsback riding, nature walks and evening campfires where available and utilized. On the other hand, we’ve used facilities that don’t offer anemities and we’re still happy as larks!
Good luck. I think you’re on to something special and would love to stay there someday myself. (With or without my quilting buddies!)
Stacey in Seguin, TX
October 26th, 2007 at 7:08 am
If all these folks want loooonggg hot showers and big tubs with fancy scents, you’re going to need a bathroom for every room, don’t you think? Pretty pricy though…I wouldn’t really want to have to share the john with someone bent on an hour long shower. You may also want to get one of those European heat on demand in-line water heaters, unlimited hot water!!!
Sounds like a good idea!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:10 am
A ranch lodge with a photo expedition???? You’re making my dreams come true! My husband would love that it’s a lodge on a working ranch. I would love the photo expedition. We wouldn’t care if it was pitching a tent! Just keep it simple, rustic even. People will come. Don’t turn it in to a spa, that wouldn’t be in keeping with the ranch get away. Make it a true escape from everyday.
Good luck and what a wonderful idea!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:12 am
Big beds, comfy towels, LOTS OF HOT WATER…and that view!!! I would just do updates in the bath and kitchen.
Where can my husband and I sign up??? I’m from Texas I need some wide open spaces. It’s been way to long. And cows…cows are good.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:13 am
oh yea…one more thing. The ability to have joint rooms so people can bring their kids too.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:16 am
I think the place looks great, but could use some updating. My opinion is, stick to the basics. Update the bathrooms, make sure the beds are comfortable and maybe update the kitchen a little. Oh and not having rain on your head, that would be a nice touch! I wouldn’t worry about the “rustic” or the older feel of the place, I would leave that as is. I’ve seen pictures of your house, you have a great eye for what a “Lodge” should look and feel like. I’m like everyone else, a hot shower, a good cup of coffee and and a comfortable place to lay my head at night is all I would need! But, for some extras, a comfortable place to sit on the porch and enjoy the view would be nice. A hot tub would be great as well. It’s not very “farm like”, but a soak in an outdoor hot tub after a day on the ranch sounds real nice! I wouldn’t add internet. Who needs the internet with that view! And I would even rip out the TV’s. You could have a TV/DVD for movie watching, but I love going places that don’t have access to a TV. Can’t wait to see what you decide to do!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:20 am
The lodge is beautiful. Please don’t change the rustic look. Don’t make it too modern.
I would love to see you do a major upgrade to the porch. Possibly have a screened in area, maybe with a few paddle fans. Definitely a hot tub area. I know it’s not a popular thing these days, but a lot of people still smoke. Have some comfortable chairs out on the porch for people to go sit, relax and have their cigarette. Most importantly in this regard is to have ashtrays. There is nothing worse for a smoker than going outside for a smoke and having nowhere to put the remains. (unless you are going to make it completely non-smoking).
Regarding hot water and water pressure. When we travel, we actually take a hand shower head with us and my husband connects it. Having this type of shower head would be a bonus, since it also helps if water pressure is low because you can bring the shower head to you. I happen to be short and there is nothing worse than a shower head that’s “way up there” and it takes a half hour to get the shampoo rinsed out of your hair.
Don’t change the look of the kitchen. Love the wood cabinets. Just update the appliances and add whatever else you need to accommodate more guests.
Regarding the food. One of the major things I like when traveling is to eat what the locals eat or what’s “native” to the area. That’s a big part of “experiencing” the area. In other words, I wouldn’t want to have salmon or lobster in the middle of OK. If you serve fish, make it local trout or whatever you catch out there. Breakfast should be a hearty ranch breakfast. I would also include home canned items like jellies, jams, pickles, etc. definitely purchased from local cooks/stores. Dinners should be things that the people who live there eat. I think you are in Oklahoma (apologize if I’m wrong). I found out that OK actually has a “state meal”:
In 1988, Oklahoma’s state legislature gave legal status to the state’s official meal. Its menu includes fried okra, squash, cornbread, barbecue pork, biscuits, sausage and gravy, grits, corn, strawberries, chicken fried steak, pecan pie, and black-eyed peas.
The main thing with food is to make it top quality, even a little gourmet, but keep it location related. Serve thick juicy rib-eye steaks, not skinny little NY strips. I would also suggest a good bar-b-que set up to grill those steaks and anything else you want to grill.
Agree with everyone on the comfortable bedding and good mattresses.
I would say no to TV, internet and in-room phones. Maybe just have internet access in one room for people who can’t live without it for business reasons. But I certainly don’t go on vacation to sit in my room and play on the internet. Do make sure you have cellphone reception. A suggestion in this regard, however, is to have a decent radio in the room. One thing I miss when on vacation is the ability to listen to music. I have never encountered a clock radio at a hotel that actually worked. While I certainly don’t go on vacation to sit in the room and watch TV, I do enjoy having music in the background when I am in my room.
I think that having your photography in frames hanging around the entire place would be a wonderful addition to the decor.
Best of luck on your new enterprise.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:21 am
Hi Ree - obviously from all the responses, this sounds like an awesome idea! Definitely the hot shower and comfy beds. Updated bathrooms would be nice.
Also I think someone else mentioned a washer and dryer. I can imagine that dirty laundry might get a little stinky!
As far as internet and tv - I need them! In fact, I would like a tv in every bedroom (it helps me go to sleep every night!). If people don’t want to watch tv or use the internet, then they don’t have to!
So, when will you start taking reservations?? I would love to do a girl’s retreat!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:21 am
This is for BB from comment 30. What part of “nice enough for your grandma and grandpa” didn’t you understand? In the South we have great respect for our grandparents. We don’t stick them in the barn and have them take a bath in the old metal tub. Must be a Yankee thing…..
October 26th, 2007 at 7:23 am
Miss Ree,
I hail from Alaska, and as a result have toured the inside of quite a few of the bed & breakfast type facilities for a variety of reasons. My favorites were always the family operated ones, with cozy Alaskan charm, and good company in the hosts. Your place is gorgeous and looks very comfortable. The ideas about kitchen, bathroom, and water damage repairs seem very reasonable. I really liked the above idea about the balcony/outdoor jacuzzi. I do suppose that if you were to offer the ranch house to corprate types then all of the internet/television ideas are necessary in this day too. I stayed in a bed & breakfast in Ireland once, and to this day I remember the uniqueness of the decor…so I guess I would say anything that puts that Ree/MM flair on the house you should do! Best wishes on your new adventure! Oh yeah, and to pay for this you could sell PW cookbooks (or you could make those especially for gift baskets for your guests!)
October 26th, 2007 at 7:23 am
I’d want it to feel like a home. This isn’t a hotel, it’s a ranch. Your ranch. Your home. And we would be guests (paying guests, of course) in your home. Make it as comfortable as you would want it to be if you were staying there.
1) Good towels are a must. Oversized, thick fluffy towels, and plenty of them.
2) Good shower heads and good water pressure. Lots of hot water.
3) No TV in the rooms. Maybe one in the living/common room. But Internet access is a must!!
4) Kitchen needs: full set of pots and pans, maybe some bakeware?, cooking utensils, regular utensils, plates, glasses (and wine glasses!) etc. If I’m coming out there for a week or two, my hands will get itchy if I can’t cook. Or I could just go to your kitchen and cook up a storm with you. Hee!
5) Fix the porch. Add some nice chairs, maybe a porch swing. I want to sit out there with some candles and a glass of wine with my man and watch the stars.
6) Bedroom: No saggy mattresses. Sheets/blankets? As long as they’re clean, they’re fine. Oh, and maybe update the curtains?
I know its a lot, but, I’m ready to come out there now. Can I ride the horses?? Can I help on the ranch? Pleeease? *jumps up and down*
October 26th, 2007 at 7:24 am
I’ve stayed at a few retreat places, like at the beach - I’d say a nice bed, an updated (but not overly hotel-ish) bathroom, and updated appliances/drapes. After that - not much is needed. I know this sounds bad, but I don’t want my life when I go away, I want to experience something else. I’d say no tv, but yes to internet.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:24 am
Sign me up…
Comfy beds and Pillows! Pillow top mattress or my bed… (Sleep number by Select Comfort) Flannel Sheets, forget about those high count sheets! Fireplaces in the bedrooms, even gas/propane would be great…. AC for summer also.
Keep it simple and with the integrity of the lodge and you won’t go wrong. Bringing it into this decade would be really nice, keep it classic and it will last.
Slow pace… options, help work on the ranch, ride horses, just sit around, take pic’s…
Did I say Sign me up?
Patiently waiting for the progress…
October 26th, 2007 at 7:25 am
I would want the feel of a ranch, but to truly relax I’d want the comforts of home- so a very comfortable bed, good shower, quality food, and yes- I’d want internet and some cable. I might not use it that much- but I’d want it. I’ve seen places that keep the rustic lodge feel with decor, but who also put major time and effort into comfort of a luxury property. It can be both and has major potential for sure!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:26 am
My girlfriend and I went to a dude ranch for a couple of years and what we liked was the rustic atmosphere (no phones or tv). Comfortable bedrooms, working bathrooms and a nice kitchen (only because of the cooking sessions)new roof and balconly would be nice. Don’t go to fancy. One of the reasons we stopped going to the ranch was it became too commercial and they lost the peacefullness of the visit. I can’t wait to make my reservation!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:27 am
Looks like you are definitely doing the bathrooms! It has great possibilities for a good cooking lesson in the kitchen after you get through with it! I think you need to decide if it going to be a group reservation thing or a come and go thing. Please stay with the ranch theme/getaway. Cell service probably is not great so internet would probably have to be, but other than that keep it real….like a ranch would be. The men do the cows and the women do the photography and cooking lessons! A big fluffy bed at night would be great! MM didn’t know what he was in for that night he got star struck in the bar…..
Let us know when we can make reservations!
P.S How about a goood DVD library with all your favorites!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:27 am
That place is GREAT! I would totally go.
My 2 internet pennies
HOT TUB: One of my best vacation memories was hiking hard in Colorado, coming back to an awesome little bed and breakfast, and after a hot shower, sliding into a hot tub under the stars. Ahhhhhhh.
Bathrooms: don’t need to be huge, just clean with ample hot water.
Bedrooms: I loved the mural idea someone had up thread. Other than that, comfy beds, nice sheets. If you’re doing this for larger groups, will definitely want to homogenize the bedding to make changing easier.
TV: No TV. None. But I’m a freak.
Internet: on the other hand, cannot live without internet. Fast internet. And if you are hosting photographers, they’ll be wanting to upload. And Photoshop!
Kitchens: upgrade and idiot-proof. Commercial grade. 2nd fridge. easy to clean surfaces. Bunn coffee maker.
Coffee: oooh, yes. please.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:29 am
We had similar decisions to make when we bought a beach house (that we sometimes rent out). Here’s essential, and here’s optional, of what I’d consider for a ranch retreat:
1-Good strong water pressure and a large hot water heater
2-Wireless internet
3-Bamboo sheets. Honestly, they are better than 800-thread count cotton. European bedding would be fab…duvets, feather bed, etc…but optional.
4-Good mattresses, feather pillows
5-Up to date appliances, and everything you need: blowdryer, coffee grinder, espresso machine, etc. Especially if you offer cooking classes, you’d need good appliances and an open area for working in.
6-Tasteful , comfortable decorating….looks easy enough in such a lovely lodge
7-Satellite HDTV; stereo/CD/iPod dock configuration. Maybe this could be in each room rather than in the common area, so those who need a TV-free zone aren’t imposed upon.
8-Rockers or adorondack chairs for the porch
9-Large capacity washer/dryer
Givens:
Good food & drink, great classes, ambiance
Optional:
1-bikes or ATVs or something to explore on
2-presentation equipment for your seminars. You’d have to talk to techies about this.
3-wine cooler, bar area, ice machine
4-outside hot tub
5-If you’re talking about working on the ranch, you might want an outdoor shower, like they have at the beach, to keep mud (and the stuff on your veterinarian’s long arm) off your floors
6- Spa treatments. I wouldn’t consider this a priority, but I probably wouldn’t turn it down if it were available.
7-Do you get good cellphone service where you are? If not, you’d need cordless phones and free long distance.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:29 am
Ree:
LOVE THE LODGE! I really believe that if you just update the bathrooms and the kitchen and obviously fix the porch things will be ducky just the way they are. That place is beautiful. All that wood work is gorgeous OMG! I wouldn’t expect spa treatments or a seven course meal. Just regular food (but really good regular food) comfort food you know and of course a tv that gets more than four channels. Seriously as much as we try to to watch tv on a weekend get away or vacation when it comes down to it everyone gets bored at times and has to turn on the tv.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:30 am
The lodge is “awesome” !
I’m use to camping and “roughing it”. So, fancy things are not a need for me. For me, redoing the porch would be good, so that the beautiful sunsets/sunrises can be enjoyed. Hot showers, comfortable beds. No need for 500 count sheets. No need for internet access. Its time to leave the rest of the world behind and experience ranch life. Good times, good food, and a great host. What more can you ask for. Other than a good cup of java in the a.m.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:30 am
I’m your loosey-goosey type. If I had to make a request, however, I would agree with many of the others and say that hot water and a nice comfy bed (in its own room, which you have) would be my main concerns. I’ve done too many retreats/camps where I am sleeping on a cot w/ a sleeping bag, and by the time the 3rd person gets in the shower the hot water is gone for the majority of the day. Nice beds are an essential. Down comforter. Pillow top. Fluffy pillows.
Oh. Didn’t I say I was loosey-goosey?
October 26th, 2007 at 7:30 am
There are many things you could do and many directions you could take. The first thing I’d need to know, having done this quite often, are the following:
1. What are YOUR goals
2. What are YOUR expectations
3. What is YOUR budget
4. What is your max level of anticipated participation in keeping the place clean, the occupants occupied, the visitors happy and stayed.
5. I’d gather since you’re in the middle of nowhere your main utilities are Electric, Oil and Propane. And cost per therm/btu of all.
6. What is the Lodge’s facing exposure, is it situated N/S, E/W or in between.
7. Roof condition and type.
8. Nearest Fiberoptic line (telco or catv co. could tel you)
9. Source of water and how many GPM are produced.
10. Size of elec service to Lodge.
11. Looks like there’s forced hot air for heating, is there cooling as well? I also don’t see any ceiling fans.
12. Size of septic field/ground rings.
13. Backup power?
I’m sure I’ll have many more.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:32 am
Ree, honestly I wouldn’t change much. It’s lovely as is. I have traveled a fair amount, and my lodging of choice tends to be B&B. The worst one I ever stayed in had a moldy smell, repairs needed in every room (like closet doors leaning against the wall ready to be hung or holes in the wall/floor for electrical outlets or heat registers, etc.), and clutter everywhere (boxes, fixtures that needed to be hung, piles of the owner’s stuff). As long as your guest house is clean and uncluttered with strong hot showers and comfortable beds, it will be a hit. Oh, and without an obvious need for repair. Let us know when you’re open for business–we’d love to come!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:32 am
Oh, Ree - I am SO there!
My vision for your lodge would be thus… luxurious beds, a fireplace in the bedroom, hot shower in a roomy bathroom (a tub would be nice, but not a necessity), and good food - not necessarily gourmet food, but something I wouldn’t make at home. Peace and quiet. A comfy chair that I can curl up in with a book. I’m not a photography buff, personally - how about cooking lessons, or a week on the ranch (working it), or a spa week… you can do “theme weeks” - that way there’s something for everyone.
Can I come now? Pretty please?
October 26th, 2007 at 7:33 am
I’d definitely take a vacation at your place. I’d like everything clean. Nothing worse than a musty smell. Updated. Rustic, with internet access. That’s it.
It looks like an amazing space. It must have been someone’s home?
October 26th, 2007 at 7:33 am
I would definately expect to see those deer heads on the wall. Really, I’m serious. And meet a cowboy.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:34 am
What a fantastic idea! Since I’ve started reading your blogs, I’ve wanted to write and ask if I could bring the whole family to live with you guys for a week…my kids would LOVE the ranch and hanging out with your brood! This is my dream come true!
Rustic is the way to go in my opinion. I want the real thing! I say do the updates on the bathrooms, kitchen, etc., but keep it simple and rustic. Oh, and maybe throw in a sound system with Ethel Merman piped in for some ambiance ; )
Can’t wait to hear more about it!
Deb
October 26th, 2007 at 7:35 am
You realize of course, that you will immediately be booked until your grandchildren are running the ranch, right? Existing PW readers better get preferential treatment on the waiting list!
Don’t skimp on the beds. Maybe you can get get a deal on some Sleep Number or TempurPedic mattresses if you offer to drive some blog traffic their way. And of course I need my own Keurig in room! Good wiring and outlets near the bed for my hubby who sleeps with a cpap for apnea. A bunk room for kids.
I also think you should have a room where a group of 5-6 could plug in their laptops and sit down for a Photoshop session with you after a morning of shooting on the ranch! So you would need lots of powerstrips and table space.
If you don’t have good cell signal, make sure you have a phone available.
When will you be open? ;0)
October 26th, 2007 at 7:35 am
Shelia is correct about the quilter group idea. I read of a little place in Texas that has a two year wait. Never underestimate the economic impact of the quilters. Top of my list would be internet/cellphone access, along with trying to keep things real.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:36 am
I would forgive almost anything (except rain dripping on my nose) if there was really good coffee and a fool proof method of making it.
My sister and I have been thinking about taking a ranch vacation with our families and your lodge is just what the doctor ordered. She, by the way, doesn’t drink coffee, but I know would appreciate good mattresses and a strong hot shower.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:42 am
I get to go to many lesser quality motels as I participate in a dog sport; the 5 star hotels usually don’t like dogs staying over
I don’t need much, but there are some things I have noticed along the way:
Comfortable beds that are not too soft. Warm blankets available. Decent pillows. I don’t care about thread count. Air conditioning for the summer months.
Good water pressure and lots of hot water. A shower head that is high enough - I stayed at a place where the shower head only came to my chest and I am only 5′6-1/2″ tall
I don’t need spa type things … go to a spa if you need that.
Also a plug in the bathroom so that I can use my hair dryer.
And a lot of decent towels that aren’t threadbare and aren’t too small.
Lots of electrical outlets that work. Another place I stayed at only had one working outlet and it was so loose that the plug for my cell phone charger kept falling out.
I don’t care about satellite TV, but internet access would be divine! Would have to be able to get online at the end of the day to upload pics, right?
Nothing rickety … rustic is fine, rickety is not. I go to an old run down resort once or twice a year, and this year, the front of one of the drawers came off in my hand when I went to open it … not just the handle, the whole front!
Other than that, the place looks great! I got online too late this morning - looks like I’m going to have to wait in a l o n g line to get a reservation
Helen
October 26th, 2007 at 7:42 am
I like the idea. While amenities are nice, it is a ranch, and I would expect to pitch in and help. Three meals and a few snacks would be all I would expect. As long as I have a shower and internet access, with a phone I could use to check in at home… It’d be good.
It looks like a really pretty place.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:43 am
I would love to just sit on the porch and enjoy the view. Remember to keep the railings low, or the chairs high.
Love your site
October 26th, 2007 at 7:44 am
First things first…
Fix the leaks and make the balcony safe a functional.
Up date your bathrooms…when I’m on vacation I don’t want to feel like I’m at church camp.
Make sure your have good quality sheets on the beds.
Get your kitchen up to date esp. if you are thinking of the cooking classes.
Updates doesn’t mean super styled or expensive but if you are looking at it as a way to make some money look at what is being offered in the market place.
My husband is a meeting planer and you’d be surprised what is out there as far as retreats.
I would keep the relaxed western decor it’s what will make the guest experience unique.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:47 am
I am not a picky person when it comes to spending a few nights away from home, since I really don’t spend much time in my hotel/lodge room anyway. All I need is a comfy bed (which means ‘not lumpy’), a strong shower with nice hot water, and delicious coffee in the morning. Count me in!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:49 am
I think the main thing to remember is you are going to have people who don’t normally ride horses feeling muscles they haven’t felt in years. Tub, shower and good beds are a must! I love the idea of an outdoor shower, and maybe a hottub on the porch for sore muscles. Besides that, I think the reason people go on a ranch vacation is to experience rustic life. Don’t go crazy with the amenities!
Of course TV and internet are a must, although I would try not to use them during my visit. The lack of them would certainly cut down on potential customers.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:49 am
Hey Ree,
First of all, let me say that if you build it, I will MOST DEFINITELY COME!
If I were coming to your lodge, I wouldn’t expect Internet access because I would want to get away from that. But a TV with a DVD player in case it rains (satellite or cable not necessary). Lots of books for cozy evenings inside, board games etc.
As for the accomodations, I love the wood paneled decor. I am form NY so if I came down your way, I would love to stay in a place that looked like an authentic ranch. Comfy beds and clean bathrooms.
My biggest thing would be the kitchen because we like to cook when we go away and we stay at a great place in the Adirondacks that has a kitchen. That said, it doesn’t have to have an 8 burner Viking range and a Sub-Zero fridge, but as long as all the appliances work and the place is stocked with basic pots, pans and utensils, it would be perfect!
A nice grill in the yard and maybe a firepit would be pretty cool too.
And I would love love love to do ranch stuff…..except preg testing the cattle….NOT THAT! But waybe your sweet LB can help get over my newly developed fear/dislike of horses.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE build it, Ree!!!!!!! The hubby and I would definitely, positively, come!!!!!
Good luck and keep us posted!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:50 am
Wow… imagine the luxury of remodeling a place that you don’t have to live in at the same time! That would be heaven!
I would agree with the major areas of renovation listed above by others (the bathroom, porch, kitchen updates).
I’d vote for no TV, but that’s because I wouldn’t want it on; there’s no escaping the presence of a TV in a common room.
I would want wireless though.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:50 am
Clean. No cobwebs. Nothing fancy. Comfortable beds, nice towels (don’t have to be top of the line, but not cheap either). Fix the porch, update the baths and kitchen and call it a day. Plenty of hot water. I think putting tubs in makes the bathrooms not share-able - what if someone wants to soak a long time? Also, you could get away with sharing bathrooms if each room had a sink/vanity area in the room. Might be a plumbing nightmare, though.
It’s a lodge, make it comfortable and clean and people will flock there, if that’s what you want. I think your biggest problem will be saying no to the hordes of folks already wanting on your email list.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:50 am
I don’t need anything…..
but the sky,
all I need is the sky…..
and you…..
that’s all I need, the sky and you…
and your camera….
that’s all I need,,,,,the sky and you and your camera…..
and this thermos…..
October 26th, 2007 at 7:54 am
I want to come to what it is right now. No changes needed. Maybe the front porch could use a little support underneath but that is all.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:55 am
Loner, you’re rude… people are giving suggestions as to what they would like their accommodations to be like and you call them “sissies”. I only questioned what you found to be so “fancy” about what everyone was suggesting. Ree did after all mention some of those things herself.
Your response about grandparents made no sense either.. and then you attempt to insult “yankees” - no wonder you’re a ‘loner’. Grow up.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:56 am
big fireplaces (it would be cool to have one in each bedroom) and fluffy, warm bed linens with plenty of pillows. No TV’s (except maybe in the living room)! tiled showers with lots of steam to clean off after being around the ranch.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:56 am
Sign me up!! I would seriously and immediately book this trip! I would come for at least 1 week and would insanely actually consider a month even if it meant I had mortgage the house. Seriously.
For an honest opinion about what I would like at such a place: well, the creature comforts are important. Comfortable sheets and good coffee (especially since there is no Starbucks nearby!!) are really nice and a must have on such a vacation! About Food: No 7 course meals!! We would want the good old fashioned Pioneer Woman foods that are fitting to ranch lifestyle and would only enhance the experience! Thinks beans and cornbread, biscuits and gravy, steaks, MM’s favorite sandwhich, etc…!
Okay, I can’t wait until you open up.
Oh and just so you know, I would be more than happy to come try out The Lodge, as is, to test out this whole whacky idea for ya. Just tell me where to send my deposit and when to come and I am there!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:57 am
This is a dream come true. You know that each and every one of your readers is going to want to come right?
Things I’d expect:
to “keep it real”
hot shower with great water pressure
quality shampoo/conditioner (I loathe having to pack mine)
super comfy bed with a quilt
internt access
“home cooked” meals
rocking chairs on the porch
comfy oversized furniture
puffs plus with aloe tissues - I abhor the paper tissues that you find at most getaways (I know strange request)
REALLY good coffee
Things I can do with out:
cell phone service as long as there is a land line
gourmet meals
TV
spa amenities
This is so exciting!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:57 am
This looks like someone where my husband and 7 year old son would love to stay. We’d go to enjoy the sites of ranch life, etc. To answer your question, we’d like a nice comfy bed, running water, heat/air, hot shower, coffee maker, refrigerator and if there isn’t an eatery close - access to groceries or knowing that we’d pack our own food but would then need a kitchen for cooking. We wouldn’t need a phone - we have cells but more than likely they’d be turned off and I wouldn’t need internet access - because after all it’s a vacation and that’s what I do during the week is sit a computer! What would be really cool, would be tours of your ranch either via a hayride or walking would be fine. The Lodge plan sounds wonderful - and definitely would be some place I’d love to stay. Marissa - Michigan
October 26th, 2007 at 7:58 am
Sign me up! I will come in heartbeat. Having worked on farms during college and being a horse owner myself I know that being tired and sore at the end of a long day is a guarantee. You may want to think about buying some heating pads. So good food, comfy bed, hot shower or hot tub would all be a must. I would think internet connection would be nice also. If cooking is going on definitely good appliances and plenty of counter space. With lots of people coming you may need to think about extra fridge room for lots of food and beverage storage. Also, entertainment options like a card table or a place to play board games (call me old fashioned). All the comments have great ideas so I probably added nothing original. Can’t wait to come visit.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:59 am
I would sleep on the ground outside if it meant spending the night at your ranch with your family.
However, since I am a city gal and enjoy the amenities of the city, I would prefer a comfie bed, wifi, a fireplace, running water, and warmth if it was cold outside. (Or coolness if it was hot outside.)
October 26th, 2007 at 7:59 am
Hi Ree,
What a fantastic idea!
Your lodge is absolutely beautiful. I love the big rooms and the ranch decor. You are a very lucky lady!
I would picture comfortable beds and sheets (FYI to everyone- Target has fantastic bamboo sheets that are softer than cotton and don’t pill. They are inexpensive and are FABULOUS. Highly recommend!). As far as pillows go, please be sure and offer down alternative for those allergic to feather pillows.
Country food and lots of it!
It would be neat if you would do different types of weekends. Cooking, photography, quilting, women only, scrapbooking, family weekends etc.
I can tell you that I would definitely love to come and visit. I have often thought over the past year and a half reading your blog how very much I would enjoy it!
Thanks for all you do!
Leeann
October 26th, 2007 at 8:00 am
Ditto what everyone else said, plus one decorating thing—–don’t go with white tile in the bathrooms and the rule of thumb with grout is “go with grout as dark as you can stand”. White/Beige grout stays good looking for a minute and half and then holds onto whatever dirt it can.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:01 am
I like staying in nice places. If I’m going to spend time and money somewhere, it’s got to be really nice. Quality furniture (including mattesses & linens), decorative accessories to make it pleasing and relaxing to the eye and in the style of the atomsphere you’re in, internet access/cellphone access and of course a tv and dvd. Salletite service is unneccessary for me, just want the tv to play dvds if I wished. Spa treatments are also not a high priority. If they are there great, if not, no big deal so long as there is a nice large whirlpool bathtub to do my own relaxing bubble baths after a day of exercusions. Three of my favorite places to stay in Asheville, NC are: The Biltmore Inn at the Biltmore Estate, The Grove Park Inn, & The Richmond Hill Inn. All very lovely and relaxing places to stay.
Have fun with your project, whatever you decide!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:01 am
Hi, Ree!
I agree that it looks pretty good as it is! But All the suggestions are really good so far.
One thing to consider: Would it be possible to set aside some space for a chapel? There might be some groups coming that would use it, and it would be a really nice feature. Just something to hold like a dozen people or so, with some prayer books or reading material. One idea I really like is to have a big picture window (with the most spectacular view) behind a cross behind an altar or podium. But it could be non-denominational, too. Maybe Hyacinth could help you with this?
Along the same lines: a room set aside as a library would also be great. Big comfy chairs, maybe a fireplace, and lots of books and periodicals covering a wide range of topics (including ranch life, of course) would be cool. Maybe some board games and stuff, too. Maybe you could set up coffee in there. Ahhhhh… coffee and books. I’d never leave!
Okay, practically speaking: I love fluffy down comforters and matress toppers. A workout facility of some kind is essential… even if you just start with a map of some running/walking/bike trails. (Dream item: a lap pool!) I love Mission style furniture and stuff, and I think that would be awesome in the space you have, and in keeping with the rustic theme. I like stained glass windows in bathrooms, because they’re private but prettier than “privacy glass.” Hmmmmmmmmm… what else…….. beautiful and interesting light fixtures, cork floors, tin ceilings, windows that have built-in venetian blinds so they don’t get dusty, and climate-control in each bedroom. These are a few of my favourite things!
Watch you don’t make everything too brown. With all that natural wood, you need some splashes of colour.
Oh yeah — one more thing — I absolutely LOVE punched-tin cabinet door covers. You can get a lot of cool designs in a range of colours, from oxidized black to shiney brass or copper. So pretty!!!!!!! You could do the kitchen cabs like that and then pop the walls with a pretty colour.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:02 am
The lodge looks amazing. I luvvv the high paneled ceilings. And the view is incredible. The big living room makes a great hanging out space, the meeting room could be used by corporate types on business retreats. I agree that internet access would be important, and cell phone coverage. An outdoor hot tub might be quite cozy. Other than that, I don’t need much. I’ve stayed in lodges in state parks in Indiana and Kentucky that were more rustic and was quite happy with the surroundings. (Indiana didn’t have TV in the rooms!)
I just heard a story about a house with a large deck where there had been a big funeral gathering with a lot of people on the deck all weekend. Afterward, the homeowner had the deck inspected and it was found to be ready to fall. One bolt was pulled and the whole thing collapsed. So shoring up the deck (perhaps expanding it) would be good. Maybe a nice big wood-burning fire ring or pit outside??
Lovely place.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:02 am
…Wow Ree! (lol…there’s my Scooby-doo impression again)… Good Morning to you & everybody! Oh girl, that looks like heaven!
…You know, it all depends on how far you and MM want to go with this, both personally and financially. I say you are all about “keepin’ it real” so make it an extension of your life and your own home. Just think of it as if people were to come and stay in your home what would they get? What is important to you when guests stay in your private residence? Keep in mind, that you and MM operate a working cattle ranch, I personally don’t think it is a good idea to go the ’shi-shi-poo-poo spa’ route. If people want that then there are plenty of them to be had nationwide.
…First and foremost, unfortunately we live in a ’sue happy’ society so you will want to keep in mind insurance liabilities. From there, definitely comfy mattresses, good quality bedding, plenty of hot water, great water pressure, dependable working appliances, no odors, large covered porch, outdoor seating, community laundry room would be nice, good lighting, internet access and coffee…that’s a given. ;o) And I’ve never stayed in a nice hotel, or B&B (I lead a sheltered life), so I don’t know how they handle cell phone usage but me personally, I wouldn’t want to hear a cell phone ring or listen to someone talking on their cell phone during my stay. So maybe a “special place” or rules regarding cell phones could be applied(???)… :o)
…I personally wouldn’t come there and expect much but the basics. I mean, it is a ranch out in the middle of nowhere…I say keep it simple. Simple is good! People would come to stay there to escape the chaos of everyday life, to experience a slice of life they only could dream about, remember - if you make it fun and easy for you, MM and your family then it will naturally flow to your guests…I think if you kept it to those three basic principles then you can’t go wrong.
…I with so many others here, absolutely love the idea Ree! I’d be happy to sleep with the horses for cryin’ out loud! lol… I am so excited about this! I can’t wait ’til you start taking reservations!
…Have a great day Miss Ree! And all your readers too! ;o)
…Blessings…
October 26th, 2007 at 8:02 am
I would need it to be CLEAN. I would want the mattresses to feel new and fresh, the bedding to feel like it has been washed and any upholstered furniture to feel like it isn’t full of dust mites. I don’t care as much about luxury in a ranch setting.
I agree with the others that said that a strong, hot shower is imperative. When I travel, it is my shower that I miss the most. I would prefer not to share a bathroom with people outside of my family, but it is hard to say if that is doable without a *major* remodel. We had a communal bathroom at the lodge in Yellowstone this summer and it felt really nasty to shower in the same place that others had—I guess I am too old for camp.
It sounds like a WONDERFUL idea!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:03 am
I love the rustic charm you have just the way it is! Some updating in the bathrooms, fix where there was rain damage and get the new appliances that you need but other than that what else is there to do? The way I see it who would want to spend all of their time inside when there is such beauty right out the front door. I agree with the idea of a large deck with low rails - makes it great for sitting and watching the sun rise, or set. But ultimately when visiting a ranch you would want to be outside - doing anything!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:04 am
Seriously, you start having retreats, and I will be your first guest! Only thing I need is a nice bed, and a clean bathroom with running water. Roomy or not, just as long as things work, and being out in the wide open space, is enough for me.
I love the house as it is, but if you feel the need to modernize, just do the bare minimum….
October 26th, 2007 at 8:05 am
just need a comfy bed and some coffee and i’m set. o and a working shower.
good luck.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:05 am
Holy smokes, you have got a gold mine there!
personally, I’d stay there right now. I don’t really think it’s all that dingy at all. It’s nice. I’d stay there right now. I can see though, that you want to make sure that everything works. Updating plumbing and appliances would be a good idea.
What do I need for a stay? I need hot water. I need a comfy bed. I don’t need luxury but I need stuff to work. I love nice soft sheets. I would love for someone else to cook for me (I’ll eat anything!) And I need a horse to ride.
So…Where do I sign up?
We stayed at a guest ranch near Calgary on our honeymoon 16years ago. This year, the Juno awards are in Calgary and we’re planning to go stay at the same ranch for the first two nights! I think your lodge idea is excellent. Go for it!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:06 am
There are too many comments to read through, so I am probably going to be repeating a few things here, but oh well, here goes.
If I were going to stay at The Lodge, I would want to have a comfy bed covered in quilts, a working bathroom (no matter how small), a working kitchen- not a gourmet kitchen, just a homey kitchen. Who wants to feel they have to create meals instead of just cooking them? Internet access could be optional. If you are really going on a retreat then some of the modern conveniences need to fall by the wayside. But I know that there are people who have to keep up with things, so you could provide it for those who have their laptops with them. I would really make the outside a haven for observing life on the ranch. I think that is what a vacation is about- becoming a part of the place where you are. If you make it too cozy and comfortable inside, no one will want to venture outside! lol But then, these are just my humble opinions.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:06 am
A B&B or Lodge is a great idea. Infact it is one of my dreams to own one some day. I think things like spa treatments, jacuzzi’s, and internet are a big plus, but are not necessary. But it would be nice after an excursion to come back to a massage or jacuzzi. I think a bathroom for each bedroom is something I would want. Also a TV. Another thing is, because you are so remote, I would want 3 meals a day. They don’t have to be fancy, but maybe one impressive meal during my stay would be nice. I don’t know how far you are from restaurants and how much of a trip it would be. I would prefer it to be tastfully and comfortably decorated, but with more of a rustic feel than Urban. And of course clean.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:07 am
Keep the high tech stuff away, unless that is your angle….working ranch with the world at your fingertips. I think that a lot more people will be looking for a way to get away from the world and seclude themselves with people looking for the same quietness. We are trying to get away from the distractions….and there will be plenty of people who will want to stay there for the very reason there is no tv or internet. Keep the place looking like it is, a step back in time. No sterile, spa looking invironment please. Keep everything homey and warm! Authentic, rustic with nice beds, bathrooms and roomy kitchen. A good night sleep is nice after a day outdoors! And great food!!!!! What a grand vacation that would be!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:09 am
A big tub for soaking, comfy beds, yummy food. That’s pretty much all I’d need.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:12 am
If you’re serious about focusing on photography expeditions (and you should, because it’s a great idea!), then the lodge should definitely be outfitted with good photo “stuff.” You’d know better than me what that is exactly, whether its desktop PCs with Photoshop installed, or some spare tripods or other equipment to try out, etc. Inspirational books? Spare film? Batteries?
October 26th, 2007 at 8:12 am
Hi Ree! I have done some work arranging business conferences and what I endearingly refer to as “schmooze trips” for clients (or potential clients). This setting looks PERFECT for what my clients want. I would agree with some of the other posts that internet connection (and I’m not talking dial-up) is absolutely essential. As far as the remodel itself goes, I would agree that the bathrooms need updated a little, but for the most part the pictures make the place look like it’s ready to book. For purposes of the type of trips I plan, spa treatments are definitely not necessary. And the people I work with aren’t looking for a bunch of activities to choose from — that’s part of what they are trying to escape for a couple days!!! I would guess that if you have just a way to show them around the ranch a bit, most of them would be satisfied just soaking in the view. Are hunting or fishing nearby? (I don’t mean guided hunts, necessarily.)
Another possibility I see for your lodge is groups of scrapbookers. I LOVE to scrapbook, and though I have never gotten the chance to go to any weekend getaways, it looks like you’re set up for that too. The long table would be a cropper’s dream!
For that bunch, the photography lessons would be a HUGE bonus. I think you could easily charge more than other retreat sites because of the extra value you bring to the weekend.
If you do decide to open the lodge up to bookings, PLEASE email me with the specifics so I can let people I work with know about it. Thanks!
Becky
October 26th, 2007 at 8:14 am
I think it depends on what all you want to do with it, but if you are thinking of things like corporate retreats/conferences, I might suggest adding at least one more bathroom. It just seems like 2 bathrooms for 6 bedrooms isn’t much. For families, it wouldn’t be such a big deal but for unrelated business people, it might be.
Can you put me on the waiting list for the lodge? It’s beautiful.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:15 am
Doesn’t have to be “luxurious,” with fancy amentities. But comfortable (especially beds). Outdoor furniture is big. And, after a long day of activities (especially ranch-related), a hot tub would be nice. Maybe a stocked bar too.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:15 am
Rocking chairs on the porch are a must! As are clean, updated bathrooms.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:15 am
NO satellite tv. No tv at except for maybe old classic movies. LOTS and LOTS of books. a hammock. and a swing on the porch. coffee is good.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:15 am
Absolutely most important is that everything works well (no trickling shower heads) and that it is CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN. When traveling, you never know what you are going to find in the way of these two things until you get there. A good reputation is the only thing that helps people trust that these two things, at least, will happen. Oh! Thick walls are good for privacy.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:16 am
I forgot to add that whatever you do should be handicapped accessible. At least one bedroom should have a handicapped accessible bathroom and the entrances and exits should be such that people in wheelchairs are able to get in and out. My husband is in a wheelchair and we find that there are so many places we are unable to enjoy just because they don’t have a way for him to get in.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:17 am
1. I like the rickety balcony. I would try to preserve as much “old ranch” ambiance as I could.
2. Comfortable beds.
3. Non-leaky roof.
4. Really good kitchen, unless you are planning to cook for all.
5. A cook… like that guy on Bonanza… Hop-Sing?
October 26th, 2007 at 8:18 am
Hi,
Clean bathrooms and bedrooms are a must! The kitchen needs to be functional and reliable. There are retreats for knitters and quilters - Stitch and Bitch weekends, scrap-booking weekends, plus just your plane old get away. Hunting groups, WEDDINGS!!!! I would imagine there are photography groups. What about movie companies? Your lodge holds a ton of appeal and I think you could have a great business on your hands! Invite the wedding planners from your area, caterers, tourist group. You could invite the Travel Channel and HGTV out maybe you could get some help that way.
A radio would be a great addition, other than that I’d stay away from the internet and things, it may be a deterrent.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:18 am
1. Internet access is necessary. You limit yourselves to ONLY those that want to totally and completely shut themselves off to the world if you don’t have it, and if you do offer it, it’s not like you’d be forcing people at gunpoint to bring their laptops and log on, you know? Sattelite TV is a good idea as well, though I would say tvs should stay limited to the guest rooms, and if there were a TV in the main living space, it should NOT have sattelite- only a DVD player for cases where a group wanted to watch a movie together.
2. That said, it would be nice if there was a “silent” living space- well insulated walls, no TV, no computers allowed in that room, and only quiet conversation allowed, with a nice view of the ranch. A place that would allow for knitting, reading, sewing, contemplating, relaxing, without being too terribly far away from the “action” if you chose to be a part of it. I know you have an open floor plan kinda thing, so maybe just a section of a porch or balcony that was dedicated to a “get away from it all” space.
3. I second the bathroom thing. A bathtub is a nice plus, but if not, then just a slightly more spacious shower.
4. I also second some of the luxury suggestions- soft beds, nice linens, big, soft towels, good coffee- it doesn’t have to be extrordinary, but I decided a long time ago that life was too short to sleep on crappy sheets (or to wear uncomfortable shoes, but that’s another thing altogether- same principle, but has nothing to do with your possible retreat space), regardless of where you are. There’s nothing worse than settling down to sleep and feeling sandpaper disguised as cloth against your skin. Yuck.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:18 am
I love the whole idea but when I go on vacation I don’t like to cook AT ALL.
Don’t get me wrong, I am a great cook and I love cooking, but when I’m vacationing I like to have someone else cook for me. Not sure if that’s practical for this situation, but I’d rather slap together sandwiches for myself than have to cook for my family or other people in a strange kitchen without all my own stuff. And I have a kid with food allergies. That would be a problem.
I agree about having areas designated for cell phone use. Nothing would bug me more than some guy on his phone all week in the next room or in the common room. Rude!
I’m not sure about the alcohol issue, either. I do like to have a couple glasses of wine, but if you just have alcohol out there at the house accessable all the time, what’s to stop another guest from misbehaving? Sorry, but people can be pretty awful sometimes. If a guest gets out of line at 3:00 AM, is Marlboro Man going to come clean his clock?
October 26th, 2007 at 8:19 am
I would love to think that I would want to leave the laptop at home. But I think in the evenings I’d want internet. So wi-fi or some kind of internet would be good but not necessary.
Decent working bathrooms are important.
As well as updated kitchen appliances. Now I wouldn’t say you would have to do fancy upgrades. They wouldn’t have to be stainless or granite counters or anything like that.
Just your basic new toilet/sink/shower/bath and basic oven/fridge/stove. Corian is a great option instead of granite on bathroom & kitchen counters.
Then of course you want to fix the porch and any rain damage. But overall that house looks amazing. And I would totally pay to stay there.
And I think you might not even be that far away for me. I’m in Tulsa.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:21 am
The girls and I just got back from a getaway. The view … cooking together is great … WIFI and a great TV for movies! … places to walk … comfy beds!! …olaces to have nosetonose girlfriend talks! and where do I sign up for 6 reservations? in 2008???? Thanks !!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:22 am
*comfy bed
*extra pillows (because most place just have 1 for a twin bed, and 2 for anything larger… and that sucks)
*Good shower with tons of hot water
*Wifi
*Kitchen with enough of the basics that they can cook if they so choose
*Rocking chair on the porch (but I’d keep the porch LOOKING rustic while you make it sturdy… because sitting on a rustic porch in a rocking chair, looking out over a beautiful ranch… that’s heaven)
*some sort of muscle rub in the bathroom for those not used to riding horses, LOL
*fireplace (even if it’s one of those fake-ish ones that you just turn on with the flick of a button, which would probably be a lot safer than letting them light their own and risk burning the place down)
*sofas with pull-out beds, incase they need extra beds
*optional cribs/playpens and highchairs for those families bringing little children along
And if you’re REALLY feeling ambitious, you could offer a portrait packages of whatever pics you take of them during their stay.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:24 am
As much privacy as possible. As many bathrooms as possible. Shade…can you plant a giant tree somewhere?
The lodge looks awesome. I think this would be a successful venture for y’all!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:24 am
Can I just rent it and move in??
October 26th, 2007 at 8:26 am
Wow, this is a wonderful idea!! It looks like you have most of the bases covered. Beautiful lodge, beautiful views! I would agree that updated bathrooms and commercial grade appliances in the kitchen would be needed. Some great thick towels, and linens from J.C. Penney and you are all set. You are soo smart, what fun this sounds like. WIFI would be great, but I wouldn’t worry about being to posh or stuffy, let people experience to true ranch lifestyle. Wonderful ranch foods and mmmm your cinnamon rolls recipe look so yummy! It would also be a great place for plein air painting…I’m just sayin’
October 26th, 2007 at 8:26 am
WOW! Neat place! I love the rustic feel but would be interested in updated bathrooms with plush towels and a comfortable bed. Other than that, I would just update the kitchen a bit and make sure there are lots of rockers on the porch cause that’s where I would spend my time (with a good book, of course).
October 26th, 2007 at 8:30 am
I’m so there! I was just telling my husband the other day how much I would love to live on a ranch!
For me, I would like it to be just a regular ranch, with wifi of course! As others have said, a good strong shower, lots of pillows on the beds, horseback riding, some sort of planned activities. At night a campfire where everyone makes “somemores” would be fun. Forget the spa stuff, this should be more like what it’s like to live on a ranch.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:30 am
I agree with Melissa, I will take it “as is”
I think it all depends on how you market the place- if you market it as a get-away from it all, then I think that you could just update a few of the appliances and go with it. I love it!
And, by the way, it strikes me as funny that you guys would need a workout room. Looks to me like you all get more than enough of a workout in a day on the ranch!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:31 am
Surprise me!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:32 am
I’d say a good shower, and a nice and comfortable bed. Internet might be useful for those who are addicted, but it might also take away from the out in the boonies experience. Some rustic experiences should defniitely be involved!
I suggest…that for your next photo giveaway on your other site that you invite some lucky person out to take a tour and give you opinions….and then let me win. *grin*
October 26th, 2007 at 8:32 am
I agree with pretty much everything that was said (especially the showers) except, possibly, the “fun stuff for the kids to do” parts. To me, it seems like the kid of place you’d go to get away from the kids - a perfect place for a girls’ weekend, actually! I know my friends and I would love to do something like that - and so would my mom and her friends!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:32 am
I’d say a good shower, and a nice and comfortable bed. Internet might be useful for those who are addicted, but it might also take away from the out in the boonies experience. Some rustic experiences should definitely be involved!
I suggest…that for your next photo giveaway on your other site that you invite some lucky person out to take a tour and give you opinions….and then let me win. *grin*
October 26th, 2007 at 8:33 am
Ree,
I think you’re on to something although I’m a little iffy on the cooking ‘lesson’. I’m a pretty decent cook and that may be why I’m not sure about it. That said, there’s an undeniable appeal to cooking with a group of women. Especially when everyone is sipping some wine and laughing. It may be more comfortable to look at cooking ’sessions’ as not only will some guests be adept, but others may feel intimidated if they aren’t.
As far as the lodge…. I agree with many of the others. The appeal of the building and the experience would be a retreat. You should focus on preserving the ‘heritage’ of the building. I love a good spa, but I can get that elsewhere, anywhere. What do you offer? The chance to get away, learn photography, bond with other women. I wouldn’t care about the thread count. I’m always a fan of the ensuite bath so I don’t have to toddle down the hallway in my nightie. I like the natural wood and I would try to incorporate that in any kitchen remodel. If they’re functional, it may be worthwhile to save the existing cabinets as they look good on here. Update appliances… convection range (they have them in gas now) big fridge, 6 or 8 burner stove.
Expand the porch. It may be rickety, but it’s too small. One of your appeals in the lovely veiw. How is everyone supposed to sit out on the porch and sip wine and pretend they’re Miss Ellie on that tiny porch? Yes, that needs to be bigger. And have a barbeque built in (gas?)
I love the wood floors, I’m not hot on the tile floors in the kitchen and one bathroom.
No internet.
I think the main thing you need to focus on is comfort. People wouldn’t be coming for a four star experience. They’d come for comraderie, photography, food, girl (and/or boy)talk, and to get away from daily life. Feed them, give them a soft place to lay their head and don’t make them walk down the hall to go potty at night.
I would come.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:34 am
Off the top of my head (which is all I have time for this morning!)…How about converting one of the bedrooms to a meditation room? Perhaps this would be the one farthest from the rest of the activity and usable by one or ten people as long as they’re quiet! Another bedroom (to make up for space sacrified for meditation room) could be a multiple sleeper….3 or 4 big wooden bunks for use either by children or at a women’s retreat where people like me don’t care where they sleep? NICE pics of the Lodge, Ree!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:34 am
Expand the porch - with places for sun and shade and BIG HUGE rocking chairs (or hammocks); NO tvs, but perhaps internet access; An outdoor fire pit. Oh, and free airfare for me to come every weekend.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:36 am
I would want a bathroom I could take a bath in (spa jets would be a plus), assurances the place didn’t smell moldy/mildewy, and 400 thread count sheets. Since it’s on a ranch and not in downtown Chicago, that would be good enough for me.
Do the bathrooms, make the deck nice with some rocking chairs. Update the kitchen, but no major remodel.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:37 am
While just one day on your ranch would be incredible (I love the lodge as it is and the cool cowboy art on the hall wall), I can’t help but to be practical. Having people at the Lodge would surely change your family’s already wonderful day-to-day grind. I hope you are thinking of having guests just occasionally, rather than crowds coming all year-round.
I,for one, would hate to see anything disturb the beauty that is your family!
Wishing you the best…whatever you decide!!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:39 am
I think it looks great already, but some areas do need updating.
The porch I would replace and extend to allow a larger useable undercover space - enough to comfortably put a table and chairs or outdoor entertaining - you have a lot of space around so it is wise to make as much use of the undercover areas.
I would update unreliable appliances but not to commercial quality unless essential - commercial quality involves a lot of stainless steel which will detract from the rustic/ranch appeal.
But if really, really desirable for a teaching purposes, build another separate training building (converted shearing shed arrangement) or build another adjoining kitchen room that caters for this purpose. Lodge dwellers (if self catering) don’t need commercial quality. If lodgers are to be taught cooking, that is best kept separate to living areas so they still relax back in the accomodation area. If they are being catered to, they don’t need to see the process, they just want a nice area to consume it in without the cooking smells hanging around.
Fix the leaking areas for maintenance reasons alone, that is a given, no matter even if you are in camping situations (which your lodge definitely is not) leaking accomodation sucks.
I would provide tv, dvd, music, phone & internet but not in an obtrusive way - say all these hidden in entertainment cabinet/s, as (for many people) it is necessary but for others they want to forget about all or at least some of that. So, it is there if they want it but not in their face.
As far as spas etc, I would not bother. Just provide hot showers and comfy beds. You could (down the track) provide a separate spa sauna building but I would not make it a priority as I think that is catering to a cowd who would not usually visit a ranch.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:40 am
Ree, darling. All would depend on what you’re going to charge and what kind of clientele you want.
A major remodel would cost lots of $$ and take lots of rentals to pay for (as the upgrades are depreciating). You would get people with $$, but maybe not always the kinds you want.
I would say - kitchen and all things structural (and other things broken). The rest? Eh.
You have too much time/money on your hands/in your checkbook if this is a possible project.
And you home school. I am not worthy….
October 26th, 2007 at 8:41 am
My husband and I recently stayed in a rustic cabin overlooking the Mississippi River. It was small and quaint, and we LOVED it. It had a tiny kitchen with modern appliances (no dishwasher), a cozy bedroom (the big bed took up most of the space), a small bathroom with a two-person shower, and a small TV/reading area. It also had a small patio area facing the river. Other the peace and quiet and spectacular view, the things we appreciated most about the cabin were:
1. The two-person shower. My husband and I love to shower together but don’t get to all that often as our shower at home is small. (A two-person shower tops our list should we ever remodel our bathroom.) Along with that two-person shower, there must be plenty of hot water and good water pressure.
2. The big comfy bed. It was one of those beds that sits so high off the floor that you need a step stool to get into it. The linens must be soft and fresh and stain-free.
3. Kitchen amenities. We had a coffeemaker, coffee, dishes, silverware, glasses, cups, paper towels, etc. supplied for us. Basic essentials like these are good to have so people don’t have to haul their own from home or buy things they only need for the trip,
4. Chairs/benches/swings/rockers on the porch. A hammock would even be nice. We also had access to a grill, but didn’t use it. We, too, really don’t like to cook while on vacation.
5. Books, a working TV with some cable channels and DVDs, and a few board games.
6. Good screens on the windows. We love to sleep with the windows open.
Don’t go overboard on the remodel/renovation. If you hadn’t pointed out the flaws, I never would have noticed them. The place looks pretty cool to me as is. Just fix what needs to be fixed and update what really needs to be updated, but don’t spend a ton of money on it. People will expect clean and fresh and unique more than anything…no one really cares if the tiolet is green.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:41 am
As long as it was clean and I had my own bathroom, I would be a happy lodger.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:41 am
Good coffee in the morning, good food, Nice strong shower, internet access, nice comfortable bed. I am packing my bags!!!! This is exciting.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:41 am
A Bose sound system wherein you can play Ethel Merman songs every morning!
A good bed and a hot shower are also a plus.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:42 am
As a woman there is sooo much I would need, but I know my hubby would most likely need less. This type of vacation sounds like a dream come true for him. He would need a comfy bed, coffee (Folgers is fine), he’d love the types of meals that you cook for your man. I on the other hand would want internet access, a nice bathroom and showers, the comfy bed. I agree with some of the other commenters that making each bedroom/bathroom separate and have at least that part have some privacy would be nice.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:42 am
“Kitchens and baths sell a place.”
And, “It’s all in the details”.
Aesthetics are great and have been addressed in many of the comments I just skimmed. Definitely keep the ranch theme.
But don’t ignore the details:
Excellent showers with good washer pressure and pleeeennnnnty of hot water. Also ensure that the water drains very well, that the pipes aren’t clogged…(this is a MAJOR PET PEEVE of mine and many other travelers I know. I can’t stand the thought of standing in my own dirty water, and whatever other schmegma remnants might be crawling out of the drain. Ugh.)
I liked the idea of the outdoor hottub (indoor whirlpool tubs when you update the baths would also be a great plus).
Definitely offer activities revolving around “life on a ranch”, for various ages.
Internet access is a must, preferably wireless.
Consider offering a cocktail hour, tastefully done.
Yes, people want to “get away”. But that also means they want to relax, and you can’t do that if the amenities are dated and you HAVE to cook every meal yourself. Also, what one person wants or doesn’t want often doesn’t jive with every person in the party. (Husband may want to “get away”, but wife needs conveniences to make sure she’s not just doing ALL the same dirty chores she’s doing at home: grocery shopping; meals; dishes; making beds; etc.)
Was there a washer and dryer in The Lodge? If not, consider adding one: this would be imperative for families with children, especially if you are offering horse rides, Life on a Ranch activities, etc.
Just my two bits. Love the concept! I’ve got a lot of family in Kansas, where I grew up, but hubby and I live all over — maybe we’ll do an R&R down your way someday!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:43 am
My suggestion is that if you’re going to have tvs, put them in the bedrooms, NOT in the main public areas. I hate listening to tv noise when I’m not in the mood to watch it.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:44 am
Oh my gosh! I was JUST telling my mom that you guys should do something like this.
I LOVE ranches, and the country and horses and the great outdoors but alas we live in the ugly suburbs of Ohio.
I would keep the rustic, “ranchy” appeal of the lodge but fix up the necessities like the rain damage stuff.
I also think you should do all the things you listed.
Photography journeys, ranch work, cooking lessons, ^_^
It would be so much fun and I would totally bug my parents for FOREVER to get to go. ;D
October 26th, 2007 at 8:45 am
Great beds, wonderful food, internet and cell phone capabilities, FREE long distance on a landline would be nice, as most people would be from out of town. I think you should forgo the spa angle. At least for the Lodge. Maybe at a later date you could add a spa house somewhere on your ranch. Otherwise, stick to the ranch angle. Homey, comfy, warm and rustic would be great.
Another suggestion…theme your weekends…don’t try to do cooking AND photography AND ranch helping all at the same time. Focus on one or the other.
Great idea, Ree…I’d love to visit!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:45 am
#1 Most important is easy to keep clean! I don’t care how dirty I get all day, but I want a clean place to relax.
#2 My first thought was no sattelite tv, no internet, but then I saw someone post about making this a retreat for a seminar or an “off-site meeting”. I think that would be a great use, and you’ll need the connectivity. Maybe even a small room that you could eventually put in office equipment (printer, fax, etc) if needed.
#3 Find a cook/housekeeper that would be available as needed. Some people won’t want to cook, and some will want daily (or more) housekeeping.
#4 (AND MY BEST IDEA, I THINK!!) Take MM for a long weekend to Branson and stay at one of Big Cedar Lodge’s cabins for inspiration. I think it has the feel you are looking for. Here, I’ve even looked up the website to make it easy on you: http://www.big-cedar.com (and no, I don’t work for them-wish I did).
Let us know when you start taking reservations!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:46 am
I absolutely LOVE the idea of retreats at the ranch. I’ve actually been toying with the idea of retreats at my home. I think the most important things would be a warm place to sleep, a bathroom with indoor plumbing :), a nice open kitchen and living room where people can congregate. The people who will want to retreat at the ranch wouldn’t be looking for a spa…at least I wouldn’t. Good luck…and can’t wait to see the results!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:46 am
Definitely need to make sure that there are nice showers and plenty of hot water (nothing personal but it looks a little messy in your parts). I think I’d get those things that heat water as needed so you never run out! Not necessary but an outdoor tub would be a nice extra where small groups could soak away their aches and chat - don’t think you need big bathrooms because who would want to stay in there long with the views and the fact that the girls might be eating all the good food! I agree that it doesn’t need to be fancy, we’d come from Alabama with minimal fixin’up! It already looks really nice!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:46 am
The main things beyond the necessary repairs would be the bathroom and beds - good water pressure, comfortable beds. DH would want a TV, but I don’t care about that. Your audience here is an internet crowd, so I’d say yes to that, and yes also to cell phone reception.
My only other thing is good lighting. So many hotels have dismal lighting. You can’t even sit in a chair and relax or read a book because there isn’t enough light.
Seven course meals, spa/hot tubs, luxury this-or-that, would not be anything I’d be looking for. Otherwise, the remodeling would have to be most relevant for the crowd you’re hoping to attract - the kitchen for a cooking crowd, appropriate stuff for the photography crowd.
Have fun.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:46 am
Here would be my essentials for staying at the Lodge: You, MM, four punks, and Josh. Definitely Josh.
(I bet we creep him out. Sorry Josh!)
Seriously though, cleanliness is my biggest essential, and I’m sure you’d have that taken care of. I agree with Carrisa on working bathrooms. No TV…Please no TV! Internet would be nice, so I could read each morning’s blog and then comment directly to you! How cool would that be?
That’s about it. But keep in mind that I spend every summer living in log cabins without running water or electricity, so my tastes may be a bit abnormal. =)
October 26th, 2007 at 8:48 am
1. Change the bathrooms.
2. High thread count sheets.
Other than that, it’s great. Leave it rustic though.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:48 am
We love to travel and this would be a wonderful retreat. We would want our own bathroom. Comfortable beds are a must with adequate privacy. Porches to sit on and drink coffee in the morning and cocktails at night. A fireplace is a must for fall, spring and winter. Good luck.
We would not care about TV or internet access that is the stuff we want to run away from.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:48 am
A nice, strong hot shower. Good, comfy beds. Rocking chairs on the porch. And clean.
I’d book a knitting retreat there right this very minute if I could! I am so happy you and Marlboro Man have lost all your common sense and plan on making The Lodge a lodge. I can’t wait for the opening.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:50 am
I would expect when going to a ranch type lodge that it would be very rustic. Now I am not like all the others there fore I will be in the minority. No Phone no internet. No TV’s. I would expect log beds. Log furniture, not a full remodel on the Kitchen just everything looking nice and in working order.
Hardwood floors throughout.(easier cleaning)
laundry facilities (exspecially with children)
the deck made safe to be on. Swing and chairs in deck.
Bedding. soft and comfortable. Horse blankets on the foot of the beds for looks. More mounts on the walls.
Let me know when it is done. I would pay for this.(not the update the visit)
October 26th, 2007 at 8:51 am
This is exactly the kind of place my husband & I like to stay in. Your lodge has great “bones”! I think you want to be sure you have good showers, and tubs are nice, too, though they needn’t be jetted or hot tubs. If you can afford to put a bathroom with each room, that would be a draw…many people do not like the whole “shared bath” thing. When it’s just family, they’ll tolerate it, but paying guests generally prefer the privacy of an ensuite bath. I’d recommend plenty of rockers or adirondack chairs on the porch/balcony. I’d also recommend that you not overdo the ranchy theme. I’ve seen places that were too “themey”. I’d use ranch accents in each room, though. Be sure to include your gorgeous photos in each room! Also, a little handbook of ranch history might be a nice touch. LOVE the idea of photography courses…I’d so be there. Maybe simple Photoshop courses/tips, too? And internet access isn’t a must, but if you can swing hi-speed wireless, it would definitely be a plus. You want good quality soft sheets & thick towels. Maybe a fire ring outside. I wouldn’t worry about sat. tv, but would recommend tv+vcr/dvd. Lots of people like to bring their own movies along. You might also keep a library of old westerns & romances. And plenty of books (including Black Heels to Tractor Wheels: A Love Story). You may want to “hide” the TV in a cupboard or armoire. That way, it’s not a distraction unless you choose it. There are a lot of places in Fredericksburg, TX that do that well. Most of all, I’d suggest you visit some places and find out what YOU like! Good luck! OH….and be sure you give it a good website. We never book a place sight unseen.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:52 am
Well, If I were to ever get a chance to stay in THE pioneer womans Lodge.. I’d totally just want to enjoy the country and fresh air. I wouldn’t really be worried about TV or if the bathroom was the right shade of New. I think The Lodge looks beautiful as it is! The Only thing I’d consider was the balcony. Just for safety
October 26th, 2007 at 8:53 am
I agree with the rest of the people. CLean good bathrooms
& a great view & lots of things to do. I would consider visiting with my family.
good luck on the project if you take it on.
Hope your bathroom is done & you are enjoying that also,
another one done & ten thousand more to go!!!!!!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:54 am
From one country girl to another - a retreat that feeds my passion for photography, cooking/baking, hooking (the wool variety) - all in one glorious setting, …ooooh baby, talk about hiney tingles!!!
What a hoot it would be to have Ethel piped in your walls to welcome:
- comfy rooms to work and breathe AND a printer? You now how much time Photoshop masterpieces can chew up!
- technique cooking classes like I’ve attended at a local Williams-Sonoma . . . you don’t need much except for an interest in learnin’. . .and long distance spittin’…
- girl space to work on Primitive Wool projects without interruptions!
I am friendly. I am competent. I am available. At your convenience several times a year to lead workshops in any of the above. It’s a win-win: my needs are basic and you’ll be more successful with a good team to assist you.
Ms. Merman is belting out, “She’s got a dream…It’s gonna come true, Baby…” for more than one deserving woman!! Ooooohhhhh, the possibilities!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:54 am
First of all, please book me on the first tour! I agree with the only two posters above that I actually read, spa treatments not neccessary when staying in a lodge on a ranch. The most important things to me would be a good host/hostess
a really comfortable bed, the good hot shower sounds good, and great food. Other than that, I like the rustic look of the lodge and internet usage and such would not be a high priority to me. I’d be too be cooking and taking pictures right? So, get going and let me know when to start planning this lovely retreat.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:56 am
K*I*S*S* (Keep it simple sweety). The rustic nature must remain. Maybe up date the bathrooms and kitchen and fix the rain damage. But not to high tech, for many who would visit would need the simplicity of the country. And the ability to relax.
Your place sounds pretty darn wonderful, where do I make reservations??
October 26th, 2007 at 8:56 am
I agree with lots of the folks in that you should stick to the basics…just updating bathrooms, fixing the porch, etc. Keep it real. For amenities, I’d say good strong coffee, internet access and a cozy area to read, knit, etc in. It would be awesome to have a library area with outdoor books, some great authors’ books…maybe in front of a fireplace. Yes, I agree that no TVs in the main areas. Ree, this sounds awesome! Good luck with it and I’ll be a guest, for sure!!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:57 am
How about a bunk room so we can bring our own, city slicker punks with us, and show what life’s like on the ranch.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:58 am
Hot shower, clean sheets on a comfy bed, good coffee, lots of rockers on the porch. That’s it. It looks great already, and I’m so sure you and MM will do an awesome job with the update. I’d be there in an instant!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:58 am
Bathrooms are a big one for me. Even if an outdated bathroom is clean, it doesn’t feel clean to me if that makes sense.
We also like big comfy beds and nice sheets. The kids and I tagged along with DH when his former job required travel The beds at Hampton Inns are fabulous. There is nothing like falling into a big soft bed after a long day of having fun.
My husband requires internet. He can’t stand to be without it for more than half a day. I could go either way on TV. It doesn’t bother me but we rarely turn on a TV in a hotel room.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:59 am
I grew up on a ranch in California and now live in the capital city of foreign country in a 2nd floor flat with a view of white and grey rectangles and squares interspersed with dirt lots and some trees. If I had an oppurtunity to spend a week working on your beautiful ranch I would be happy with a flush toilet at the end of the day. Hot running water would also be nice because I’m sure I would be sore after a hard days work and might want to take a shower. As far as food goes, as long as there is coffee, I’m good to go. (OK, maybe a sandwich now and then would be good too. Oh, and the cinnamon rolls.)
October 26th, 2007 at 8:59 am
Scrapbookers are another group to think about. That loooonnnnggg table would be perfect. Give us a comfy chair to sit in and we would bring the rest!
But just to come and stay …….. a bed to sleep in with a warm comforter. PW type food. A cookout under the stars and a couple of guitars. And a rocking chair for the front porch. I don’t care if the bathroom is big or modern or roomy. Hot and cold running water and indoor plumbing is what is essential. You’re a ranch! Be a ranch! Don’t try to be a resort or a hotel. I would come because you were a ranch and for the experience. I’m not coming there to watch TV, check my email or get a facial. I would, however, take some photo class from you, or some cooking lessons or follow you around and help you fold laundry! LOL!! Keep it real! Keep it simple!!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:59 am
I’m sorry I have not read ALL 180 posts, but here are my thoughts. I apologize if I repeat what someone else has suggested.
Since it is a dorm-like set up, I suggest having ENOUGH bathroom access for everybody. I wouldn’t care about whirlpool tubs or huge showers, but I don’t want to have to wait in line very long to use the amenities.
That being said, you should remodel the lodge according to the clientele you want to attract. You can’t be everything to everybody, and you shouldn’t try to be. Ask yourself what type of people you want to have to deal with during a retreat. Do you want families, adults only, people who want activities offered every hour, or people who just want to experience the wide open space for its own sake.
I’m all for photo expeditions, cooking classes, etc., but what would draw me to your place is the location and observing the way of life on a working ranch. Rest, relaxation, good food (and not having to cook), taking a walk on the property, perhaps a horseback ride, and good fellowship. My husband would be all over the photo expedition and cooking classes, and my kids would stay at home with grandma and grandpa!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:00 am
I would love a room with a private bathroom. I hate the thought of sharing-GROSS! That’s just me though. Germophobe. I would also love a family weekend, where we could bring our girls and stay a weekend on the ranch. Fun, planned activities are good, but also things to do on the down time, alone, when you need to have some space would be nice. Movies, walks, reading, sitting outside on the porch swing, that sort of stuff!!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:00 am
I love the idea! It seems you already know what’s right with the place and what needs fixing up.
I agree with Jenni in KS. Keep it real and keep it simple. Most of all keep it affordable to families on a budget. I don’t need a lot of fancy stuff, just a warm bed, a hot shower, life-sustaining food, hot coffee in the morning, a glass or two of wine at the end of the day (the last two I like to bring with me).
Internet and cell phone service, YES
Spa, NO
Fancy 5-star amenities, NO
TV, NO
Maid service, NO, NO, and NO!
When we vacation we basically use the room for sleeping after a long day enjoying what the area has to offer. So as long as basic needs are being met, you’re good!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:01 am
There’s a similar place that we’ve stayed a couple of times and I’ll tell you what our favorite features were. Now, these aren’t items that I would have initially thought were essential, but they are the things that have spoiled me and make me miss it.
* A walk-in cooler outside that is stocked with all kinds of beverages.
* A large walk-in linnen closet that is stocked with a ton of towels and sheets as well as some extras that you may have forgotten. This way you don’t stress about what you might need to spare.
* His & her bathrooms for each bedroom… because that’s the best vacation a woman can get. And yes, strong, hot showers.
* A big screen TV with all the channels.
* A kitchen pantry stocked with great olive oil, staples and seasonings.
* A hot tub (and a pool, but the hot tub is most important for when the kids go to sleep)
* Wi-fi access so that you can afford to be away from work a little longer… or shoot, even go there for work.
* A place to hang your keys so that you don’t loose them
* A mud room stocked with fishing equipment
* A golf cart so that you can do some minor open-air exploring with your kids.
* A fire-pit for roasting marshmallows.
* An outdoor bench swing to enjoy the view
* A basketball goal
* Noise machines in the bedrooms.
Random, I know… but these are the things that produced the most peace and saliva.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:01 am
Ree,
Strange that is my side business, I own and rent condos in Daytona Beach Florida.
You could do a bed n’ brefkist….
Private bathrooms - bedrooms with better linens - nice views and lots of storage….maybe stero and internet access.
Bathrooms need to be functional guest want them to be clean.
Living area needs to be comfortable and have LARGE tv…
Kitchen need to be higher end and functional.
Can we have horseback riding and photo lessons and cooking lessons and blog lessons??
Sounds like a lot of work, hope that I am not too old to visit when you get this project done.
Renata
October 26th, 2007 at 9:02 am
comfy beds
hot shower
incredibly large porch
books
no tv
definitely internet access
clean bathrooms - small is fine
good food - doesn’t have to be fancy
good luck!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:03 am
Oh, this is an easy one for me!
Good shower (hot and high-pressured)
Comfy bed
Nice linens and towels
Readily available coffee
October 26th, 2007 at 9:03 am
Oh, wow, Ree. I live in your area and I would come to a retreat at your lodge in one heartbeat. One. Maybe half a heartbeat, if that’s possible. Your guesthouse is absolutely gorgeous!!
That said, there are things you need to make sure of with me packing my bags and all. I agree with the good hot shower. Pressure is important. But I am the biggest weenie about my bed. I love my bed here at home, it is a memory foam pillowtop. It has spoiled me, and even when I am in an exotic locale, in a fancy hotel, I’ll sniffle at night that I want my bed because those others are TOO HARD.
So, bed, shower, and I’m happy. Really. If it’s clean then I don’t care how old and outdated it is. Clean is important.
I’m excited to hear more about this venture…keep us posted!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:04 am
We do stay in a converted school house in Nemo SD when we go to Sturgis…. they do have private bedroms and community bathroom…we are not thrilled, but we do continue to reserve the place….just a thought if you are looking for similar situations that are successful…
October 26th, 2007 at 9:04 am
A ranch vacation without technology!!! TV? When there are sunrises, sunsets, cowboys, rainbows and cows? I don’t think so. How about bookshelves where guests can leave copies of their favorite books for your next visitors? Comfy chairs on the porches. Board games. Frisbees, old mitts and softballs. The point of a ranch is to be OUTDOORS, right? Hmmm? I’d keep the interior lures to a minimum; get us crusty city folk into our work clothes and hand us a shovel. Make it a WORKING retreat. If you do the kitchen, that’d be great cuz it’s always the heart of everything, and there your guests could attempt all the wonderful recipes on your other blog. Hmmm? Eh?? Then they can serve YOU your very own version of Eggs Benedict in bed.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:05 am
Yes a great shower is awesome, but if you are travelling with children, especially small ones, a good bathtub without the sliding doors is essential. I used to go nuts when the girls were little trying to bath them at my mom’s house. She had those sliding shower doors on her tub….impossible and uncomfortable to bath little ones like that.
A nice porch to sit and watch the sunset or to sit and sip lemonade after a hot dusty ride.
Sound system so you can play awesome music to set the mood!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:11 am
Oh, wow Ree!!! I would bring the kids in a second. Honestly, the only thing that I would want are some nice rocking chairs on the porch to relax in after the kids passed out. Hard work, good company and fun
October 26th, 2007 at 9:12 am
You have to get rid of the bedroom lights ( the long ugly things). When I stay somewhere to relax I like to read between activities, so get some books. I think it is a great idea, little scary but still good.
jolie
October 26th, 2007 at 9:12 am
My husband and I are friends with a couple who do this with their second home. They have one here in town then another about 2 hours south of here.
Here is their site: http://www.poweredparaglidingcolorado.com/2007FlyIn.htm
in the picture, I’m on the right int he hot pink top and hubby is to my left in the maroon top.
They rent it out and host the fly-in once a year. We absolutely love it. The only thing I would change is that it needs more bathrooms. There are only two!
They have one room with a double or queen bed, one with two twin beds,upstairs, downstairs they have a game room, a room with two beds and a bunk bed set up and then another room with more beds and then at.v. room. It is so nice and cozy.
I think it would be a great idea. One cool thing about Bubba’s place is it is totally off the grid. It is solar powered with battery back up and septic tanks.
They also have a couple of WWI or II Willys. Little jeeps we can tool around the mountains in.
Go for it, Ree. I think it’s a great idea!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:12 am
The Lodge looks soooo inviting. First, If I were to travel there, and I would love to, I would have to bring my horse, so knowing there was a barn and paddock nearby would be important. For me, I need to start the day with a strong, pelting, hot shower. That, along with a soft, comfy bed and good hearty food is all that is needed. Just the view from that rickety balcony is relaxing, as long as the spider population is at a minimum. I can deal with almost anything, but don’t like spiders! Looking at the pictures of the lodge was like looking at a luxury camp somewhere, I loved the look. Don’t care that the bathrooms are a little run down, but doing them over with a little more wood then paint would do wonders.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Since hubby and I occasionally go away one of our favorite places to stay was a cabin in Ponca, Arkansas.
http://www.buffaloriver.com/lodging/
We live on a small farm but enjoyed the fact of no tv reception. Phone reception HA! Unless you went outside and leaned over the porch and held your phone out at arms length, forgetaboutit. But we played some mean games of Rummy in the evenings in addition to a few other activities!!!
But the jacuzzi WOW! BEDS total luxury! Sitting on the porch swing, long quiet walks, horseback riding & canoe rides down the river made it one of our best get aways.
Last but not least the folks that ran the outfit made you feel like you were their only guests. Very personable, which I think you have in spades!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:13 am
I agree with the comments about comfort, internet, satellite, good food and hot water. I have 3 additional words I’ve not seen in any other comments and since this is really about the renovation, think TANKLESS WATER HEATER. If you don’t know about these, research it. They’re wonderful! Instant almost limitless hot water, and energy efficient.
Other than that, keep the rustic feel with all the wonderful wood, maybe wooden window blinds to keep those wonderful views easily accessible. Upgrade the bath and kitchen for comfort, but keep it rustic, too. Have you ever been in the bathrooms at Bass Pro Shops (specifically the one in Springfield MO)? Look it up on the web. Too cute! and above all POST PICTURES AS YOU RENOVATE ‘CAUSE WE’RE ALL VOYERS!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:13 am
Yep, you should definitely redecorate. Replace that dining room table especially.
…And send it to me.
Yes, the beds should be comfy, but a bathroom makes the whole thing. And if they’re “playing” ranch, they’ll want a good hot soak. Make the bathrooms really nice. That always sells us on a place.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:14 am
Hey Ree,
First off let me say, PLEASE let your readers know before you open it public. We will want to start making reservations and I think we all know that you will be booked solid for years!
This is right up our familys alley. My huband dreams of living and working on a farm and I love photography and cooking, so we would be out there in a heartbeat!
When you go to a ranch for vacation, you don’t expect the same things from a NYC hotel. So axe the spa treatments and tv’s in every room.
Hot water, comfy beds and linens and a up-to-date kitchen are necessary. I think that a cool extra would be a tv that has a small selection of dvd’s that are oldies but goodies (i.e. musicals, westerns and some comedies). But I am an old movie junkie, so what do I know!
Definitely some stuff for kids, like a horse shoe toss out-side the house and a tire swing (maybe). I would put a washer and dryer in, due to having that many rooms, people might stay for a week and it would be nice to have an option to wash clothes, especially with getting dirty helping with ranch work.
Another positive (as most have said) would be a few rocking chairs on the porch and some of your photos in the house as well as some of your family history.
It will be great whatever you do, or if you do nothing at all!
Be sure to have some black-out periods so that you and your family can get some periods of normalcy.
Good luck Ree!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:17 am
I also second Jenni’s thoughts on the decor–photos of MM’s ancestors and the ranch would be awesome, and of course PW originals all over the place. Pick a photo and decorate each room around one! There will be fights over who gets to sleep in the Calf Nut Suite! Man this sounds like fun!
Got any neighbors who could drop by and offer hot air balloon rides on those beautiful mornings?
More randomness:
A comfy place for a double snuggle outside (hammock, porch swing, etc.)
Checkers table on the porch
A complimentary PW print or PW cookbook, depending on the nature of your stay (or an autographed copy of Black Heels to Tractor Wheels!)
A PW family photo session offer (who wouldn’t pay for shots of their kids in action!)
And possibly a looped recording of MM’s chuckle to help me drift off to sleep….
October 26th, 2007 at 9:18 am
All of the above but PRIVATE BATH is a must. Definitely do not want to share a bath.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:18 am
Have a TV but no cable, and a big pile of movies a family could watch together. Books, lots of books, to read while sitting on the porch in a rocking chair or swing. You can’t entertain people 24/7 and guests will want moments of solitude to relax and reflect in. A guest journal, to share stories of adventures to share with the next guests.
Nice bathrooms are a must, a little bit of luxury to go with the ruggedness. Big comfy beds, but please no tv’s in bedrooms. The kitchen would depend on who’s doing the cooking. If I’m on vacation I’m sure as h**l not doing the cooking :P.
Horseback rides and photography expeditions all sound great but keep it genuine. I hate hokey put ons that some guest ranches cook up. Make people feel like their part of your ranch, helping with the daily chores when their interested and getting a real idea how things work along with the special activities.
The décor theme in the living room is already great; I’d just spruce it up a bit and carry that throughout the whole house. Casual western/lodge without being over the top in your face.
Ree, this is an awesome idea. It’s even prompted me to comment. This will be so much fun!
Amanda in Austin
October 26th, 2007 at 9:20 am
I would love to come to your ranch retreat….the major improvement I would like to see is EXPANDING, DEEPENING the porch. I’m from the South, and that’s where all the socializing happens! Everything else seems perfect…I agree with previous posters about the need for hot, hot water and comfy down bedding (Get JC penny to hook you up!). Also, I would love to see you decorate the place with your wonderful photography. Can’t wait to see what you do with the place. Y’all are amazing!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:21 am
Love it! So many great suggestions…I agree with the comfy beds, updated baths with huge fluffy towels, and lots of hot water. Wireless internet and satelite tv are both a must. Even while traveling I like to keep up with the news/weather and such. We vacation in the Smoky Mountains with 3 other families often and would love to travel out west sometime too. We total 22 when we’re all together so this would be perfect. We also cook at the cabin most nights because organizing 22 people at a busy restaurant is stressful. And we ENJOY the “family feel” of all working together in the kitchen. Maybe offer dinners/breakfasts uncooked and stock all the ingredients so guests can prepare them for themselves. Some people might not want that but I know we would. The pictures look fabulous now so just updating will so the trick. Please keep the rustic decor though, it’s perfect! Can’t wait until reservations can be made!
threegirlsmom in NorthwestGA
October 26th, 2007 at 9:22 am
It sounds like there would be two markets for this venture. The folks that want a full working ranch experience with all the grunt work that entails, and the folks that want a comfortable country getaway. Personally, I’d love to watch the cowboys but I have no interest in any of the dirty work. ;o)
An outdoor hot tub would be great for either clientele. The working ranch folks are likely to be sore after a day of castrating calves!
A pool table would be fun for evenings. I only see photos of two bathrooms, I would add at least one or two more for a place that big. Jacuzzi tubs are always a big plus in my book! A small library stocked with some great reads would be good. Some board games on hand, maybe cards and chips for poker? Lots of windows to take advantage of the view and to bring the wide open feel indoors. Maybe a hammock under a tree or on a big covered porch. Karaoke would be fun! A port-a-crib and a high chair available if you’re targeting family vacations.
I can’t wait to see this as things develop!!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:24 am
I’d stay in a minute as is! The lodge is gorgeous–keep that wooden interior and the ranch decor. A place like this needs to be functional, comfortable, and clean, not luxurious. I wouldn’t care about a big screen TV, a hot tub, his and hers bathrooms, gourmet kitchen, etc.
What I’d want–double sink in kitchen, big fridge. Maybe a washer and dryer for clothes. Books, jigsaw puzzles and games for rainy days, comfy afghans, and somewhere I could spread out and press plants, play with art projects, or make some other sort of mess. A covered deck, screened porch, or sweepable room with a cement floor or something would be ideal. At least one good lamp with enough light for stitching or reading. Nice outdoor grill or barbecue. Bird feeders, binoculars, and a bird book for keeping tabs on the visitors. Star maps, for star gazing, and maybe a telescope. Borrowable friendly dog for long walks. Cookie jar that guests can empty and then bake to fill–leave your favorite kind for the next guests! Hammock. Stash of rubber boots, raincoats, frisbees, sun hats–you know, all the things you find you want and forget to bring.
There should be some way for guests to “leave their mark.” Might be as simple as a guest book or a wall people can sign, or a recipe file people can leave their favorite recipe in.
I agree that scrapbookers–and quilters!–would make good retreat guests. I just love this idea, I really do!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:24 am
This is a guest house? Absolutely gorgeous! WOW! Let me know how soon I need to pack my bags!
Though your exact location is a guess to some, I know it gets pretty hot, so I would say good Air Conditioning is a must for me!
I’ll go out and ride horses and do trails and all that, but when the day is done, I want to be able to grab a hot shower (with some good pressure as many others have requested) and relax in a cool house…evenings on a porch to watch the stars is nice too.
Maybe some games for the kids….
Food: just some basics.
Can’t wait to hear all you have planned for this…
October 26th, 2007 at 9:24 am
Ree,
I have been reading your blog now for about a year. I live in Edmond. I would come up there in a heartbeat as is. I think updating a little on the bathrooms, kitchen, and fixing the porch would be great. However, I would not want all the ‘city’ fluff. Your place has great views and is BEAUTIFUL. I can see people within a two or three hour radius wanting to come up there for family vacations, scrapbooking retreats, church retreats for small groups, and I love the idea about cooking and photography. Don’t try and make this all fancy smancy…it is lovely, needs some updating, and too be honest with views like that who would want to stay in and watch television? I think this is a fantastic idea for you, MM, and the kids. You will have to block out special times so not to interfere with your busiest times on the ranch. I know I lived on a ranch for 12 years after being raised a City girl. I so relate to your blog!!!
Blessings!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:26 am
Internet, YES
TV, NOOOOO
When I’m traveling the one thing I want is my own bathroom. I cannot stand sharing a bathroom with strangers. If I was with a group of people that I know, it might be okay…but strangers? Nope.
Keep it simple. I think you’re sitting on a gold mine.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:26 am
1. Super indulgent, super comfortable beds with rocking linens. (The W Hotel in Atlanta does a tremendous job with this one)
2. Light. Good natural light during the day and dimmer switches at night.
3. Nice shower and really neat shampoos and body washes provided. Don’t forget the body lotion. (it is one touch that some of the nicer places to stay forget or skimp on)
4. A hot tub on the porch would be nice.
5. Private bathrooms.
But, I’ll come right now if you need me too. I’ll even bring super helpful and handy husband to work with MM!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:27 am
Good grief! I’d stay there right now, tonight without any hesitation. Who needs TV or the internet? Look out the windows of that place! I’d be outside from dawn to dark. And then on the porch after dark. The only other distraction I think I’d need is a pile of good books and I’d provide those myself.
I think safety should be your first and main concern–fix the railing on the porch and make sure there’s no weak spots where anyone could fall through and fix the leaky roof.
And maybe have a small outdoor play area for little punks to play in while Mom and Dad lounge in rocking chairs on the porch with heating pads on their butts sore from all the riding and ranch work?
I think a few kid-oriented ranch activities would be great too. I think you’ve mentioned you home-school yours? If so, then you definitely knows what works and what doesn’t as far as keeping kids entertained and managing to teach them something new at the same time.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:28 am
The lodge is beautiful! -I would do as little as possible to change it. You don’t need a Holiday Inn!It’s a private ranch.Skip the high tech, people can have that at home.a simple upgrade for comfort. I will now repeat HeatherG’s suggestions …”That being said, you should remodel the lodge according to the clientele you want to attract. You can’t be everything to everybody, and you shouldn’t try to be. Ask yourself what type of people you want to have to deal with during a retreat. Do you want families, adults only, people who want activities offered every hour, or people who just want to experience the wide open space for its own sake.
I’m all for photo expeditions, cooking classes, etc., but what would draw me to your place is the location and observing the way of life on a working ranch. Rest, relaxation, good food (and not having to cook), taking a walk on the property, perhaps a horseback ride, and good fellowship. My husband would be all over the photo expedition and cooking classes, and my kids would stay at home with grandma and grandpa.”
K.I.S.S. –keep it simple, retreat is the operative word.
and, It’s a Great idea.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:28 am
Internet access - Yes
Cell phone access - Yes
Satellite TV - Not necessarily
Bathrooms - STRONG water pressure, large shower, big bathrooms with plenty of space around the toilets (A very nice stay ANYWHERE can be ruined by a sub-standard bathroom, in my opinion!)
Kitchen - Industrial appliances
Beds - High thread count sheets and a bunch of pillows, both feather and foam
Front porch - DEFINITELY a nice, usable front porch with tables and rocking chairs
Decor - rustic
The whole idea would be great, but I wonder if visitors would interrupt the necessary operations of the ranch? If I were visiting your ranch, I would like hands-on experience doing some of the things you blog about. Would someone be available to give your visitors that kind of experience? I love the idea of the photo excursions.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:28 am
Hi, Ree.
I think this is a great idea. And, we just went on a dude ranch vacation in August. Here is a bit from my blog, describing the experience.
” The duplex-style cabin had a big front porch and two porch swings overlooking a large grassy area. Probably our only disappointment with the place was our room. It was very very dim and cave-like, with dark wood walls and floors, and even brown window blinds. The place had obvious electric problems, given that the lights barely glowed when turned on. I was not able to use my hair dryer, because it just barely whirred when I tried to turn it on. The window-less bathroom was so dark that Eddie went to town the next day to get a stick-up light. Our buddy tried to plug in his portable dvd player for his kids, and the lights dimmed, and the player would no longer work.” The bed and pillow were also pretty hard and uncomfortable.
“The rest of the cabins in our group were just fine.” They for one thing, were fully lit on the inside, clean, and decorated with a homey cowboy feel.
“But everything else about the place was great. The boys just ran all over, chasing cats and frogs, and being little cowboys with their gift shop hats and guns. Our toddler girls mainly stayed on the large front porch with us or on the playground. Every night there was a campfire and marshmallow roasting. One evening a professional roper came to entertain, and the last night we went on a hayride where we learned some of the history of the ranch.”
“And the food was wonderful. Simple, fresh, homemade, just everyday favorites. Our first breakfast there was up on the hill, or breakfast on the trail as they called it. The chow bell rang for every meal, and the boys usually went running to the dining hall and beat the rest of us there. All the employees were incredibly friendly and helpful.”
Our stay also included two horseback rides per day, and the option to purchase private lessons or a sunset ride. One thing that we really liked was the pool, since it was August in West Texas and all. It was nothing fancy, just large. A hot tub was there too but we did not use it.
The TV in our room did not work, maybe due to the electrical problems? We were mostly too busy to watch, though the kids watched one movie on a portable player. Cell phones did not work there, but there was a land line inside the main lodge. I think internet access would be nice.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:29 am
Everyone sure has given you a lot to think about. Someone made a comment about sitting on the porch and looking at the stars. That is a sad, but good selling point for most of us on either coast who just don’t have that option any more due to the light pollution from the cities. So, stargazing, with or without a telescope is my suggestion for you to include in your future brochure.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:31 am
I think working on the things you’ve already pointed out…bathrooms, kitchen and big porch would do the trick.
What does it for me in a vacation spot are the linens and bathrooms. Those are the two things that make me feel “pampered.”
What an exciting adventure ahead of you! I’m so excited for you. Lifting you in prayer for a successful journey.
Missy
October 26th, 2007 at 9:31 am
Looks like a wonderful house. My extended family has a much smaller version. Please, please do not let some decorator come in with their version of “ranch”. That would destroy the charm of it!! It does need to be spruced up, but you don’t want it to look “done” like a photo in a magazine or a furniture store, so that people can’t relax. As my grandad once said, “Don’t get a coffee table that I can’t put my feet (rather boots) on.” You want it to be homey.
Cosmetic changes to bedrooms would be easy. The bathrooms will have to be updated, but again, not to look like a spa or resort. Simple is best. I saw a guest house in central TX near Brownwood that had a small bath with stained concrete floors, a small sink with new fixtures (black, I think). Simple, nice. Ssmall is OK.
Just curious: Is the house you live in bigger than this one? With four kids, six bedrooms could come in handy down the road when they all want their own space. Of course, I’m not sure of the location of this house on your ranch, so it might be inconvenient.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:31 am
of course, the more ammenities you have, the better. if you’re planning on having cooking as one of the features of one’s stay there, you should have an up-to-date kitchen and big enough for however many people are in the group. enough bathrooms would be important, also. the deck is a wonderful feature (whew - that view!) and i do think internet access would be nice (but not necessary) in this day in age.
but i think the most important thing i would look for is that the lodge not be in disrepair. that however much or little you have in the lodge, that it feel like you care about your guests by offering clean and functioning accommodations. you want to offer a comfortable feeling. that doesn’t mean the high thread count on the sheets or spa treatments. just a comfortable feeling in beautiful surroundings.
i must tell you, i would sign up in a nano second to experience a small part of life on your ranch. from the pictures, it is a beautiful lodge and would be perfect for what you are thinking. i have to question your sanity, tho, in thinking of offering such a retreat. you would have most of your readers clamoring to get onto your property and rubbing shoulders with you and your family. i’m guessing your waiting list would be years long and that you would have no privacy left. BUT… if you do decide to do it, put me at the top of the list.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:31 am
I would definitely book a weekend at a place like this (I used to do that a lot in Brazil).
Wireless is important to me - it is used to communicate with my family in Brazil. A good shower, like someone mentioned, and not much else. I wouldn’t use spa treatments in a place like that.
Just let us know in your blog when you are ready to receive the first guests, and I’ll be booking a visit very quickly!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:33 am
First of all I would give this decision some serious thought. Your life on the ranch seems to have some major time constraints - the daily business of running a ranch, homeschooling (that alone must require a large block of time each day) and the everyday responsibilities involved with running a household. I would seriously talk to some other people who have done something similar. There are lots of them out there. There’s a whole industry revolving around what you’re suggesting, but most of these people do not run a large operation at the same time.
Instead of hosting those that can certainly afford the airfare, etc., how about opening the Lodge to some disadvantaged kids who have never even seen a cow? There’s a fantastic program called Kids with Cameras that puts cameras in the hands of disadvantaged kids. Your family is so blessed perhaps it’s time to pay something forward.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:34 am
I love the big living room - I think that is where the action is. Maybe a wider porch.
As for bathroom, one per bedroom would be nice, but in a ‘retreat center’ I wouldn’t expect it. Keep them neutral. I like to be able to see that the bathroom is clean.
I’d really want internet access, but could go without TV. I do like having a cd player in a room though. I like the idea of movies (especially classics and westerns) in this sort of setting.
I am frequently charmed by the idea of theme rooms, even if I think the theme is kind of silly. Possible themes - based on a state, quilts, cows, cowboys, music, Ethel Merman.
Is there a fireplace? A retreat center I’ve been to had a cool circular fireplace. If you don’t want an inside fireplace, an outside fireplace could be really nice.
And how about an outside kitchen for foodie retreats?
October 26th, 2007 at 9:34 am
important things: good showers, comfy beds, nice kitchen(which I think looks fine-maybe just replace the appliances), good porch, internet access, cell service
more important: preserving the old feel of the lodge
October 26th, 2007 at 9:35 am
If you are going to have a ranch vacation… The experience SHOULD BE a ranch vacation.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:35 am
Hot showers (with enough hot water for everyone)
Clean bedding
Fluffy pillows
Adequate lighting
WiFi Access
Cellphone reception (in case the babysitter calls to ask me what to do when the goldfish dies-true story!)
Fix the leaks (our cabin is SD last summer leaked through the chimney and flooded the living room)
Adequate heating in cooler months, air conditioning in the summer (ceiling fans are good too)
Satellite TV is NOT necessary, but a TV with DVD player, playing cards, board games (Worst Case Scenario is fun)
Working kitchen appliances
Meals don’t need to be 7 course, quick breakfast, lunch and dinner are fine with a few snacks tossed in
I like the rustic look of your cabin though and wouldn’t change the style much at all.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:35 am
Chiming in here with those who said an updated bathroom with a good supply of hot water is an absolute necessity.
Nice, cool sheets (on a comfortable bed)to slide into after that hot shower would be pretty high on that list too. Especially if the “experiencing ranch life” would include a taste of the hard work you all go through every day.
I think if you look at your house and the updates as you would if you were selling (kitchens and bathrooms are top priority), your answers would come.
And CLEAN. Clean is a must.
Where do I sign up?
October 26th, 2007 at 9:35 am
I am just going to add my agreement to all of the above suggestions not having been able to read all of them yet. This is a most wonderful thing for your family to do, there will be many reservations. I think the cooking classes, ranch life, horse-back riding, photo opportunities and classes would be great. I love nice sheets, clean bathrooms, and a hottub outside would be great. Internet access would be nice, but tv optional. Like someone said, a tv in the public area would be fine. Sitting on the porch would be great too. An outdoor grill. Please count me and my family in for reservations. Thanks!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:35 am
COMFY beds. It has to have a comfy bed. The Westin Hotels have what is called the Heavenly Bed. If you’ve ever slept in one you know why. THAT is what I look for.
CLEAN bathrooms.
and NO SNAKES coming in windows. :o)
Let us know when you start taking reservations. I have an 8 year old daughter that would LOVE to meet your girls.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:36 am
I’d want a bed and a private bathroom.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:36 am
WOW! What an exciting project! You must do it nad then you must let us all come to stay! I am thinking you need: Comfy beds- not necessacarily sleep number- but something nice and comfortable, nice linnens, a washer dryer in the Lodge, an easily cleaned kitchen- stainless and industrial stainless counter tops that can be easily wiped, keep the bathrooms small- we will not be spending much time in them- spend the time nad effort on the porch and blankets and rocking chairs and you will need a logo that you can put on coffee mugs that will be in the kitchen and for sale as tokens of the trip and a tv but not a big screen and wireless internet if you are thinking you might get executive retreats but not so much for regular folk we can handle a T-1 in the meeting room/ office. And we could use fluffy towels with the lofo monogramed on it of the Lodge and it wouldn’t hurt for the pillow cases to have the logo on the edge and nice soft lighting in the rooms via rustic lamps and lots of Ralph Lauren-esque prints in the main rooms and in the bedrooms. Maybe a game of washers in the yard and some of the bull horns that stick into a bale of hay with a few lariats for us city folk to play with and a few punks to teach us what to do. Let me know if you want me to come over to help! You have my e-mail!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:37 am
I agree with those that say internet access is absolutely needed. Aside from that, I would try and keep it real (but I’m sure you already know that). If people are going to stay on a ranch, it should feel like it. Make things updated, working and clean, but it shouldn’t feel like a spa or resort. I’d sign up for a PW photography and cooking weekend and I’d have to take a plane to get there. It would be kind of cool to do specific weekends for kids. The parents can go and do one thing, while the kids see what it’s like to live and work on a ranch and maybe gain a little perspective.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:38 am
Like many here, I’m all for keeping it simple. Strong hot showers, comfy beds, good coffee (as with the shower, strong and hot). No TV (although I’m probably in the minority on that one), big shelf of interesting and varied books, keep the wood paneling and all that makes it a ranch home. If you plan to use this for conferences, you probably need to upgrade to commercial level kitchen appliances.
Is that a green toilet in the first bathroom? I want one.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:39 am
Oh Boy! Today has been a good day and the possibility of this makes it GREAT! I’ll be driving through the Flint Hills today dreaming of life in the lodge at the PW & Fam Ranch! *sighhhh*
Maybe I’ll post some of the amenities I dream up. But for now, my suggestion is that you’re going to have to do a little hands on research!
Montana’s Big Sky country and the Ozarks of Missouri are two places I would suggest starting! 
Thanks for the bonus giddiness for the day!
Courtney
PS - since I’m sure there would be a waiting list years long, I’m willing to come in the dead of winter as long as there is a cozy fireplace!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:42 am
What a cool lodge!! First thing I thought of was it would be a great place to have a small knitting retreat. My expectations of a nice lodge are: hot running water, a/c and heat, comfy beds (larger than twin), comfortable seating, good lighting (requirement for knitters), 3 meals with snacks is fine, no gourmet required. A beautiful view with the peace of nature is icing on the cake. A tv would be nice but not required, no spa treatments necessary. Please let us know when it’s ready for action.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:45 am
As long as it’s mouse free, I could stay there as is :o)
October 26th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Comfy beds
hot showers
large garden tub to soak
high-speed internet
NO TV
large porch with comfy rockers and swings
up-to-date kitchen, but nothing overly fancy
DEFINITELY keep the “lodge” feel
That table is a scrapbooking retreat dream!!!!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Comfort first. Comfy bed, comfy couches, bathrooms that make youfeel relaxed just by walking in and looking at the amenities. Internet access. Coffe.
That’s about all I need.
And I will be there. Seriously, I will soooo book a stay.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:47 am
I LOVE the idea!!
I’ve got to have INTERNET and a COMFY Bed!
7 course meals are only necessary as the final exam in our Cooking w/the Pioneer Lady Classes.
A TV and jacuzzi would be nice to unwind after working on the ranch, but not necessary.
Keep it simple.
What about an option to bring families? I’d love to have my kids (ages 3-15) spend some time working on a ranch. It’s good for them!
I’d come with or without the family.
What time do you want me?
October 26th, 2007 at 9:48 am
Fireplace!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:48 am
Hi Ree,
If I understand you correctly, you’re thinking of using the lodge as a retreat. Retreats I have attended were held in 1) an old monastery with 1 or 2 private bedrooms with baths, group sleeping rooms with 1 to 4 sets of bunk beds, community bathrooms (3-4 toilets, 3-4 showers with wooden dividers and sheets hanging in front as curtins), community kitchen with dining hall, library, chapel, meeting rooms, tv room; or 2) cabins at the state park with bunk beds, bathroom, kitchen, living room with a lodge as a meeting room or the great outdoors.
Generally at the retreat we needed: towels, linens, eating utensils, & cooking utensils. We generally had 1 or 2 meals prepared for us and we either grilled, potlucked, or grabbed subs on the way for the other meals. We also used tv/vcr/dvd, overhead projectors, marker boards - but we brought a lot of that with us. (Bringing some of these items may be next to impossible if people are flying in.)
Your lodge is already set up nicely. Just make your rules for usage, and stick to ‘em. If you want to use the lodge for specific retreats, you set the parameters, you let people know what they need to bring.
To me, retreats are for a time of sharing, bonding, and getting something done - not really a vacation, just a time to get away from the every day “stuff”.
So, what I’m saying is make it safe, make it clean, make it easy to maintain. Keep it real.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:48 am
Whatever you do, don’t change the livingroom - look gorgeous. OK, don’t change the feel of it. I love the wood, the windows (all the windows in all the rooms), although the deer head mounted on the wall made me a bit nervous.
Everyone has good suggestions and I’d just be parrotting them. Not sure I saw anyone suggest wheelchair accessibility, though. That’d be very cool. Might not be able to retrofit it into full, state-of-the-art access, but a bathroom, a ramp, etc. Don’t see that much in non-urban places (and I’m itching to get on the waitinglist).
October 26th, 2007 at 9:48 am
HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBILITY! Meaning, basically, a ramp leading up to the front door and the porch. And at least one of the bathrooms larger to fit a wheelchair into. So one could book ahead and reserve that room/bathroom. My daughter is 11 and I would love to bring her to a ranch such as this but she uses a wheelchair. Oh and available SIDERAILS to slip on a bed or two if a child tends to roll out
October 26th, 2007 at 9:49 am
If I was going to stay at a lodge in the middle of nowhere I would be disappointed if they had internet and cable tv. They would be too distracting. I would however expect a comfortable bed and plenty of good food. I would also want to know if there were things for my kids to do or if it was just an adult thing.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:52 am
OK, I’m in!!
Just not preg testing week!
I would definitely love MM’s favorite sandwich while I’m there!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:52 am
If it were my lodge and if I were to consider doing what you are considering doing, I would do the following:
*extend the deck to be able to accommodate 30 to 40 chairs outside, and I’d consider a way to make this inside living space in the wintertime, if you’re considering doing this year-round.
*re-do the bathrooms and renovate so as to include a bathroom with
each bedroom (and get rid of the green toilet/sinks)
*update the kitchen
*make certain water pressure is good. Make certain plumbing can handle what you’re considering doing.
*hire someone to do all the cleaning
As far as bedroom amenities go, I would include the following:
*hard beds with comfy squishy mattress pads
*soft sheets
*simple and sparse decorations
*wireless connections accessible from each bedroom
*a large rustic desk or workspace
Bathrooms:
*clean
*some with jetted tubs, some with just showers
*large, soft towels
Main room:
*T.V.
Kitchen:
*a place to keep personal snacks
*industrial strength kitchen appliances
Laundry room:
*you’ll need an industrial strength laundry room to launder all the linens.
Food:
Depending on how far it is to the nearest town, I’d say you’d need to do a continental breakfast (at minimum), provide sandwiches at lunch and cookouts/products from your afternoon cooking classes for dinner. If you’re close to town, everyone could be on their own for lunch.
That’s all I can think of!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:53 am
Necessities: Internet access, lots of hot water for showers with GOOD shower heads and nice clean towels, soap (on the off chance the manure is involved in any of the daily activities) coffee, a couple of rocking chairs on the balcony for wide open space viewing and coffee sipping, comfy living room blankets (that aren’t disgusting) to take with you to the balcony, comfy beds and pillows, not scratchy bedding (doesn’t have to be extravagant, but better than the Super 8), indoor plumbing…yes, all the typical kitchen appliances (microwave is probably important, toaster too), a roof and heat/AC as appropriate for season. OH and you can’t forget the token beans and jerky.
Not necessity: TV, jacuzzi, spa treatment, 7 course meal, anything super yuppy that you would find in a Florida resort (barf!), and lots of dead animals (looks like you have it pretty tastefully done…don’t over do dead animals…it gets creepy).
Last note: Please please please don’t change too much. It’s the most fantastically beautiful lodge I have ever seen! Okay, yes the bathrooms look like they need work and the balcony looks a tad dangerous, but other than that…it is perfect.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:54 am
I can’t believe you’ve already received over 200 responses on this, but of course, it is a fabulous idea to spruce the place up a bit. The huge living room is wonderful - I have a big family (9 brothers and sisters) so when we all go somewhere with or without our kids, it’s essential to have a space where we can all be together. Scratch the spa idea and the business-related accommodations. Your ranch is a fun and peaceful place, or at least that’s what your pictures and stories tell. It is a place where many of us would want to escape. The amenities I think are most important are yes, a hot shower. A big soaking tub or deep clawfoot bathtub, and warm beds. So often when staying at a cabin or lodge, the bedrooms are cold at night and the bedding not warm enough. I have heated mattress pads on my beds and that really warms up a bed without the bulk of a heating blanket on top of you. The place is gorgeous! Would consider screening off a section of the porch. I LOVE my screen porch. And as everyone else said, let us know when we can come stay!
Can’t wait to see it!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:54 am
I want a clean bed, clean bath with working plumbing and I would be happy to ramble around in that kitchen. I think rustic is the charm. I am sure cable tv would be nice, but who cares about all the other high society stuff, not me. It kinda defeats the purpose of visiting a working ranch. I want the smell of coffee and cow crap in the morning!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:54 am
I agree that clean, updated bathrooms would have to be high on my priority list. A good coffee maker too. Dare I say an espresso machine? Forgive me, I’m from Seattle! A well stocked library of interesting books. Ones that have beautiful pictures and are easy to pick up and read for short amounts of time. Books that I would love to buy but can’t justify it just because it’s ‘pretty’. Magazines would be great as well for that same reason. Board games are important too. A televison is not. I can do that at home. Bed linens are important too. I’m all about the small luxuries that I wouldn’t get at home.
Keep us up to date if you ever turn it into a bed and breakfast! I’m sure you would turn a good business. I know we’d come!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:55 am
It looks mighty fine to me!
pack a bag and go to a rural retreat in a ranch setting—if the retreat involved early mornings with coffee brewing and warm, sticky cinnamon rolls, photographic journeys, cooking lessons, working ranch activities, and rest and relaxation.
Ok the only thing you left out was the photoshop class.
Other then that I would sleep in a tent.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:56 am
A hearty breakfast, perhaps an option for a private picnic lunch after a horseback ride or a hike, and a glass of wine with a view by a cozy fire in the evening. If you are looking for a great lodge to inspire the interiors and exteriors I would recommend Russell Versaci’s book New Old House. It has a great lodge type structure in it that is very beautiful.
Public Jacuzi’s gross me out. Unless the setting is just undeniably beautiful and I can focus on the horizon and not the other people’s skin particles that I am swimming in.
Oh - and an amazing, yet cozy library with books and art about the west so that one feels one has left the present and truly visited a unique spot.
Beware the overdone Western Decor. Although I don’t think you would go there. That stuff makes me queasy pretty quick. I think you can be rustic without having deer antlers sticking out everywhere. Don’t forget pretty…for us girls.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:56 am
What an awesome idea! My input:
Lodge: Squeaky Clean. Updated appliances & fixtures especially in kitchen, Bath & Bedrooms-opt for “indestructible” as you can’t control how guests will treat your facility-eg: Countertops of Silestone or stainless would be MUCH easier to maintain and harder to damage than residential material such as Corian. A big wraparound porch with tons of rockers, picnic tables, ranch decor-lots of enlarged ranch photos hanging around (ones you have taken), Guest Books/Journals are fun for guests to leave you a note of what they liked about their experience with you-also makes for fun reading for other guests,
Each room must have: private bath, Super comfy beds and linens, internet access, access onto porch off each bedroom. I like the idea of themed bedrooms and let me repeat…clean! HOT showers, sound proof bedrooms (so you can’t hear the guy next door snoring-or whatever), TV w/DVD for movies is optional…but would be nice at the end of a tiring day-you could have a large selection of cowboy/ranch type films for borrow. Don’t try to recreate a 5* hotel…just do clean, updated, ranch themed and rustic.
Kitchen & Food: Classes would be great. Need to update kitchen with commercial level appliances. Lots of seating, Lots of good food and snacks available. For groups-consider advertising meal packages that offer a variety of options such as: #1) You do all the cooking #2) the guests do all the cooking #3) You cook dinner only…or breakfast only and they are responsible for the rest…or whatever mix you want. No 7 course meals…just good basic ranch food. Breakfast: for individuals (not groups) offer a choice-#1) gather with other guests for large & hardy ranch breakfast or #2) Some may opt to have a gingham lined basket delivered outside their door with juice, fruit and muffins-to be enjoyed at their leisure for the mornings they choose to sleep in. (especially good for those who need to “get-away” from hectic city life and want to relax) Not every one is going to want to rise with the cowboys and chickens each day!
Lunch: Guests could order boxed lunches to be gathered between certain hours. (Offer a “lite” lunch & a “hardy” lunch) Three hardy meals a day is too much food for some.
Dinner: Family style meal served at a certain time each evening. Nothing fancy…just great food.
Photography: Classes, scheduled photo shoots, Photoshop instruction, (be sure to keep an extra supply of CDs for guests to buy in case they fill up cards and need to download-someone will always forget their supplies)
Misc.: Opportunity to experience Ranch life, hiking trails, horseback riding, hayrides, campfires each night, etc. Don’t need spas and fancy stuff. Provide cell phone access. Also, I like the idea of a rustic chapel and I’m sure would be put to use on church retreats or those of us that like quiet time.
Sounds fun! Add me to your mailing list. Good Luck!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:56 am
I think first yiu would need to decide if you want it to be more rustic or 5 star - if you are going for 5 star - I would suggest the Paws up resort website in Montana for inspiration. I think most people would like it be more “every day ranch” so they can experience a true “day in the life” .. but good beds and good water pressure in the shower in always inportant. Great photos on the walls ( some of your own would be perfect) that showcase the ranch itself.
Internet is probably good - satellite TV would be optional - it is a ranch vacation
Comfy overstuffed chairs but keep all of the great western flair in the decorating ….
October 26th, 2007 at 9:56 am
This building looks like it has great character and bones already. I probably wouldn’t do much to the kitchen or great room except spruce up the furnishings a bit. It’s SO important to have comfortable mattresses and lovely cotton sheets/linens. King size beds and twin size beds! A small library. No tv or computers. Is the fireplace in good working order? Maybe music/cd/s, cards and games. But those bathrooms need fixin. Must be spotless and updated. My family goes to a dude ranch in Colorado with no phones or tv and it is a fabulous week we all enjoy. I think you could market this as a working ranch experience for families. Or a photography workshop where “strangers” could share the lodge. I would come. The hot tub/Jacuzzi is nice especially if you’ve been riding all day. And food? Well do you want strangers in your home for family style dinners, or you could always prepare some of your favorite foods and stock their fridge as part of the fee. A week/end of meals with strangers might be too much for any family. This is an awesome undertaking. I agree LOTS of hot water and rocking chairs on the porch. Horse shoes would be fun too.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:56 am
This idea sounds wonderful!I think you’ll make a killing! If I were to come out I would want a: cozy bed (decent sheets, down comforter, nice pillows, no motel blankets!),a hot shower, your awesome cooking with snacks and coffee available 24/7,a semi sound proof room (not someone elses t.v. blasting all night), plenty of places to just “be” (porch swing, overstuffed chair by the fire, picnic table under the trees and maybe some bikes so you could cruise around on the farm roads and get some down time in nature. I’d love photography classes,photoshop classes, cooking classes and some serious hands-on ranch time. It would all be wonderful! I really think you are on to something here. Good Luck!You willingness to think outside the box is very inspiring!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:57 am
This idea sounds wonderful!I think you’ll make a killing! If I were to come out I would want a: cozy bed (decent sheets, down comforter, nice pillows, no motel blankets!),a hot shower, your awesome cooking with snacks and coffee available 24/7,a semi sound proof room (not someone elses t.v. blasting all night), plenty of places to just “be” (porch swing, overstuffed chair by the fire, picnic table under the trees and maybe some bikes so you could cruise around on the farm roads and get some down time in nature. I’d love photography classes,photoshop classes, cooking classes and some serious hands-on ranch time. It would all be wonderful! I really think you are on to something here. Good Luck!Your willingness to think outside the box is very inspiring!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:57 am
Oh Ree one more thing to add to my post above:
A fridge full of Beer & Wine!
Huge Necessity
October 26th, 2007 at 9:59 am
Wow! Well, being a pacific northwesterner, I’d have to say my first choice of what I would have to have is a Starbucks right outside the front door. If that’s not possible, then that kitchen needs a commercial-grade latte machine and someone that knows how to operate it. Other than that, comfy beds, heat for when it’s cold out and ac for when it’s warm out; a library in one room that’s well stocked with reading material and a fireplace, and cable tv would be nice. Oh, and free parking….I hate that the fancier hotels don’t think that they charge enough for their rooms so they need to charge you to park your car in their parking lot as well. Where do we sign up??!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:00 am
Wow, what a great place! When I vacation, I look for nice bathrooms, beds and kitchens. With 6 bedrooms - does each have it’s own bath or are they shared? Nice linens/towels are a must -especially after being on a ranch all day. What a great view! Can we ride horses? Where/when can I make reservations???
October 26th, 2007 at 10:04 am
OK, Ree, are you overwhelmed yet? This is probably old hat to you by now, these hundreds of comments. When do you find the time to read all of them.
When I was in Europe, we stayed in B&Bs and “self-catering apartments” instead of hotels as much as possible. One thing they all had in common was simplicity: simple decor, simple amenities, simple art on the walls. It was soothing to walk into a room and not be overwhelmed by someone’s tchotchkes on every surface. I would say, no wacky window treatments, no chintz, no fire-engine red. Just neutral colors and soft bedding and maybe a little rocking chair or wingback chair in every room. Big rocking chairs on the porch. Cards and board games under the coffee table. Ooh, maybe a writing desk and some stationery in the rooms?
If you’re going to do tvs (which, seriously, why?), put them in armoires in the rooms, not in the common areas. I think it would be fun to have a “family room” or two — cute little bunk beds plus a queen size bed, for those who can bear to keep their punks in the same room with them.
I think that all those fancy amenities would be nice if you can find places to source them locally. How cool would it be to have a fridge full of whatever coke or beer is made down the road from y’all, and cookies or muffins from a local bakery, and coffee from a local roastery, and soap from the gal who sells soap at the county fair or whatever. Local local local. Local.
Have you thought about hard surface floors vs. carpet? I would think it’d be easier to deal with hard surfaces but you’d have to get some good rugs — which, I guess it would be easier to swap out rugs when they got dirty, rather than carpet.
I would want it to be simple and quiet. I’d want to put on my slippers and pour myself a cup of coffee and sit on the porch. I wouldn’t necessarily want to see (or hear) the chaos of getting breakfast together for 10 people at 6 in the morning. I’d want flexibility in the schedule so I could go take a walk with the dogs or… speaking of dogs, would this be a “canine companion” friendly place? I mean, a certain kind of dog, not those sissy dogs, but maybe a dog that could use a change of scene, or a dog that feels trapped in the city?
I’m ready to make my reservation. But if I see a single Laura Ashley print or ruffled bedskirt in the remodeling pictures, I’m so revoking that statement. Theme rooms are good, but simplicity is better.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:05 am
Okay… ‘Simple’ is the theme here. Nice, clean bathrooms. Nothing fancy. No fancy tubs. No spa. Nice beds/pillows/sheets. Nothing “luxurious” necessary. It is a lodge on a working ranch, after all. There should be a rustic feel to it, or what’s the point? Update the kitchen to handle a crowd and maybe for cooking classes!? visit www.kamskookery.com . She’s a fellow Oklahoman, like us, and does great interactive cooking classes in her home. That would be fun. Porch update, of course. Internet is necessary….sad, but true. TV’s…. hmmm. Tricky. I’d rather not have one at all, but my hubby thinks he would go crazy without… just in bedrooms or common room or both…. not sure here… Sounds like fun! Let me know if you need help… I suspect I’m not far from you!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:05 am
Oh Ree. This is perfect!
Our family can move in with you and live in the lodge!! I can keep you company! And my punks will help too! I have 5 of them by the way. Is that a problem?
Why didn’t you tell me you had this available a long time ago? I’ve thought it would be so much fun to be your next door neighbor for a long time now!!!
We’ll be moving this weekend.
Thanks for the offer!
See ya tomorrow!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:07 am
The most important thing to me it that it is CLEAN! Especially the bed linens, including the comforter cover. I have stayed in 5 star hotels and have been shocked to find that the comforter cover is not clean.
I would also suggest wood floors everywhere. No carpet.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:10 am
I have a few practical suggestions.
1. Handicap access, not every room, but basic availabilty to common areas, porch, and at least one handicapp bathroom. That will probably mean widening or double-door for a main door. But it is worth it.
2. The bathrooms should be remodeled for guest comfort and clean-ability, which is different than home bathrooms. You do not want anything in a guest bathroom that is difficult to clean or that gets a dingy look even when it is clean. I hate to say it, but grout is your enemy. So curb that tile fantasy. Also, color is important in bathrooms. Even tho i love greens and blues, they wash out a face and make it look puffier and more bags. Nobody likes that on vacation. Think peachy-southwestern colors and plenty of white or cream.
3. On demand water heater, possibly two for a space this size. That way your utility bill doesn’t bankrupt you. Also consider laundry facilities for that many bed linens.
4. Outdoor lighting. Many people who will be coming have never seen stars very well. Consider modern outdoor lighting that casts down not up and is on a timing and motion system so light doesn’t disturb sleeping guests or wash out the view of the night sky. One thing most people never experience is actually being in the dark. ALso power bills are terribly impacted by unneccesary outdoor lighting.
5. Too much carpet is your enemy. Consider a brand called Flor, a modular unit that you can shape to any room. Don’t need padding, wall to wall, or installation. Your punks could put this stuff in, and it really works like they say.
6. Minimal kithen updates. Go for function rather than magazine look, but again an emphasis on how easy to clean. Nothing that you have to baby.
I have so much more, but you don’t need a dissertation.
Hope it goes well, I wish i could just plan the whole thing.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:10 am
1. Make each of the bedrooms with a unique personality, Ree the dancer, Ree the romantic, MM the rancher, MM&Ree the library, etc.
2. A darkroom for the photography set or at least a computer room with Photoshop enhanced photography classes that include Photoshop basics.
3. A giftshop or catalog for items personalized with your “brand” (t-shirts, hats, etc.), plus cookbooks, cowboy art and humor, and your photos framed. Internet hookup to order online to be shipped to their home.
4. Plant native grasses and plants around the lodge for good photo opportunities plus plants that will attract nature to the area.
5. Put in a water feature that leads on a winding flower and native grass path to the pond at the bottom of the hill with solar lights on the path for nice evening walks.
6. Put up some of those wooden silhouettes of people and horses for photo opportunities at sunset that would not require your cowboys and horses to be involved. The silhouettes would double as garden enhancement as well.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:11 am
If it’s during cold weather, a really nice, wood burning fireplace. Also, bathrooms are important!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:11 am
The “lodge” looks like it might be bigger than your house????? More bedrooms??? I think you should remodel it for your family while living in your current home and then have another child to fill all the bedrooms! Then you could turn your current house into the guest house.
OK, if you don’t like my idea and want the current “lodge” to be the place the people stay at to play rancher for a few days then I would like a couple amenities.
I read several people say a hot shower. I think it needs to be not only hot but have strong water pressure. I hate being someplace that it takes me a half an hour to rinse out the shampoo from my hair because there is no water pressure.
Internet access would be nice. That way your guests can email people pictures of their visit while they are there.
Anything you have on your cooking website would be just fine food wise. I wish I could come over right now for some of that penne pasta with shrimp.
I would think a cool ranching decor would be neat. The pictures that you showed did not look that bad except for the bathrooms. They would have to be updated. And if each bedroom could have their own bath that would be lovely.
And I think you should make it kid friendly. Because I live in the city of St. Louis, MO and every time I read your blog I’m always thinking I would love for my kids to get to experience what your kids are doing. They would be blown away!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:11 am
I would have to say comfortable beds to sleep in especially if participated in any activities during the day. Big soft towels to shower with. I would have to say satellite TV and internet access is a must. A pool and hot tub for relaxing. The Lodge is beautiful, but needs a little updating. I love your idea and I would love to visit when it is done. Sounds wonderful!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:13 am
A hot shower, comfortable, warm, cozy beds. Update kitchen so the cooking classes will go off without a hitch. You should add scrapbooking retreats too because your dinner table is a scrapbookers dream! I think you have a great idea and good bones to start off with…just needs some upgrades.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:15 am
WOW! Beautiful Lodge. I would want good shower pressure and a toilet seat that didn’t move around when you sit down. Musty smells are never good. With the view the Lodge offers I would want an ample deck with VERY comfortable lounging chairs. But honestly, if this post was an advertisement for a retreat on your ranch and I knew nothing about you, I would still book it. That lodge looks very inviting as is.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:15 am
Okay Im now sitting here sobbing…just blew my nose…I want to LIVE there…aaaawwwww!!
I’d remove those chairs at the end of the kitchen table and get 2 wood ones..fix the water damage and call me to paint and decorate (as I do that) to fit the look!!! I Love it!!!!! Are Ya hiring?
October 26th, 2007 at 10:16 am
Simplify, simplify, simplify….. I would NOT want internet - having a cell phone would be enough connection for me - or NOT. The point is to get away-escape into another way of life that is totally different from what you are use to - a vacation! I would love big, overstuffed couches, a huge fireplace, “nooks” for reading and I agree about the strong, hot shower. Good coffee and normal food and the ability to learn to ride a horse without feeling stupid! I’ve never been on one and I would love to give it a try.
Actually - I’d stay there right now - just the way it is - and feel like a pioneer LOL. When can I make a reservation?
October 26th, 2007 at 10:16 am
Ree, ditto to most of what I read above. AND, you better be inviting me to help b/c you know I will and I need a good project right now since the one in works is on hold! The beer and wine fridge - yeah, a must! That way when you have storms like last winter, you’ll have wine:)
October 26th, 2007 at 10:17 am
Oh, yeah, that would mean you’d have to email or call me.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:20 am
Sorry, but I cannot live without TV in the bedroom. If you don’t like it, don’t use it! TV in the bedroom has saved my marriage!
(just kidding, but still…)
No way in Hell would I use a hot tub that other people (strangers) were using. That to me is plain gross. Would you get in a bathtub with a bunch of other people? Maybe if there was a “luxury room” that had its own private balcony and hot tub I would get in with my family. Other than that, a luxury tub or shower in my own private bathroom — maybe under a skylight — would suit me fine.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:20 am
Hi, well you got a lot of responses and i don’t have time to read them all, so here goes. First of all, it sounds like a great idea. I would love to come and I am sure you will have no shortage of guests. They will all probably be your internet stalkers though! LOL
Comfy beds, games and lots of books in a cupboard, good food. No electronics. Just nice peace and quiet. Horse back rides, camp fires. I wish you were closer to the Northwest (assuming you are not) so I could come.
Susan
October 26th, 2007 at 10:20 am
My essential requirements would be:
1) An updated, clean, well-functioning and lit bathroom, with a bathtub big enough for a proper bath (which also means no glass doors — a curtain that can be pushed out of the way so you don’t feel like you’re bathing in a coffin.
2) A properly functioning, updated kitchen with an icemaker. No ice cube trays.
3) High thread count sheets and newer, fuller pillows. No down pillows. Some like them, and some don’t. It’s terrible to be stuck with down feathers when you can’t or don’t desire to sleep with it.
4) Comfortable reading chairs and lights. Leather sofas and attractive wooden chairs out of horns or carved wood are attractive, but any good retreat requires a deep, comfortable, but supportive chair in a reading nook, with good lighting.
5) A fireplace or fire pit would be ideal.
6) Internet access. High speed. No exceptions. I can do without the t.v., radio, but not without internet access. It may sound counterproductive to a retreat, but life and business goes on with or without you, and I can’t fall behind. Besides, I need to blog about the experience with photos, on a daily basis.
7) An outdoor hot tub. A big one. Swimming would be great, but if no budget for that, an outdoor spa makes up for it.
Spa treatments and such are nice, but not essential. Day spas and Spa Retreats are my line of work, and I can tell you that nothing is hokier or more of a let down than going to a B&B or a retreat that advertises itself as a “spa” and by this, they mean there is a hot tub, a workout room with a treadmill in it, and woman who shows up to wash your face or give you a massage. This is not a spa. This is a room with a weight bench and a massage table and a visiting woman who gives massage. It’s far, far better to advertise it as such: “Massage Available; Hot Tub Available” than to classify it a spa. Plus, it’s so easy to create spa-like ambience in a home retreat, and get the simple enjoyment out of a nice, hot bath in a well-designed bathroom with a deep tub, candles, and wine, after a massage. In fact, you could have a great deal of fun with ladies only spa retreats with a visiting massage therapist and esthetician, as part of a reward for a weekend of cowgirl-esque activities, but this should not be the focus or primary amenity of the Lodge unless you’ve hired a spa consultant to truly turn one of the rooms into a professional spa treatment room, with proper equipment and all the doo dads attendant thereto.
I say, give us a great bathtub, a great outdoor hot tub with some privacy, a good bed with great sheets, a place to read, a place (for you to come) cook, and a way to check email, and we’ll be happy campers.
Oh, and you need to loan Marlboro Man to us all weekend. I want him to sit in a chair in the corner by the fire and chuckle at all my funny stories, with his boots up. So I can pretend he’s mine.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:21 am
My bro-in-law & family have a cattle ranch and they have allowed people to come (mostly during branding/shipping) every year-initially they thought it would be great free labor. They don’t charge people (pay your own way) but do feed them. The have 7 bedrooms,4 bathrooms and all bedrooms have at least one set of bunkbeds-they still often run out of space. The accomodations aren’t fancy, a place to lay your head, a place to wash yourself. They don’t have internet, tv or phone (ranch hand has a phone at his house in case of emergency). They aren’t charging people to come so your situation would be a little different, but for the past 5 years they have had people (a lot of repeats) from all over the US. Oh yeah, for entertainment they have a pool table, ping pong table and air hockey table. This allows people to interact since there are often new people joining the “fun” of branding.
I would say keep it simple. Oh and if you are going to open up the working side of the ranch (ie: horses) never underestimate the ummm inexperience of those new to a ranch–they have had a few injuries and I think one person had to be helicopter evacuated since they aren’t close to a big city.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:22 am
I’d start with the kitchen, for as you said, it needs to be more commercial to accommodate groups of people. I’d make it state of the art.
As to the bedrooms, I’d make them rustic. Lodge, to me, conjures up …well, typical cabin style furniture. Don’t skimp on the mattresses, though (not that you ever would).
Maybe a marriage of rustic cabin meets B&B? Soft, plush, downy comforters with European style bedding. You know how the beds in some European movies always look so darn inviting? Have you bedding be like that, but keep the furniture rustic.
Maybe there’s a local skilled furniture maker?
Forget rustic in the bathrooms, though. Spa like accommodations there would be a real plus, I think. Everyone wants to feel pampered when staying away from home (whether they deserve it or not, by gosh!).
I think the cooking lessons is an awesome idea! To me, a trip to your lodge would be an AWESOME retreat!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:22 am
WHERE DO I SIGN UP?? I’m so there. Having lived in the country for years and years…(Jackson Hole/Star Valley Wyoming) The lodge already Rocks! Anything you do would only make it better.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:23 am
Nice hot shower, good working kitchen, a comfortable couch or chair to sit in, and a nice warm bed is all that I need.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:25 am
The Lodge looks great. I would definitely keep the great room the way it is maybe with a little more taxedermy (I love taxedermy)and concentrate on completely re-doing those bathrooms (with industrial loos).
In the kitchen, well, I could go bonkers in there. I would go commercial on the appliances, as you were thinking, and with two dishwashers.
The Porch - HUGE and have many, many big rocking chairs; the kind you can find hand made in the mountains of North Carolina.
I would have an outdoor campfire area. A large circular campfire pit; a wood burning oven & fireplace. It would be really neat to be able to cook some chuckwagon type meals.
I would keep it rustic and country. After all, if the people want to be in the lap of luxury, let them go back to the city. This should be a place to experience the country and all it has to offer.
Amenities: Internet access would be nice; TV I would do without in this case; You really don’t need alot in my opinion; heck people are coming out to be in the country!
Activities: Kids & adults alike would probably love to learn how to rope a calf, ride a horse, cookouts. You could even have your veterinarian come over and teach guests how to preg-test a cow (maybe not). Heck the possibilities are endless!
Please accept this posting as my reservation for, whenever!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:25 am
Honestly, if I were family just visiting, what you already have would be just fine. A little update here and there to make it a *safe* place to visit would really be my only request. My grandma and grandpa had an old beat up guest house that I loved. It had that cozy, lived in, older home smell and it was wonderful. Internet access would be a total bonus, just so I could still check out Pioneer Woman every day.
If you are considering turning this into a lodge for strangers I definitely have to go with the hot shower thing, with decent water pressure. Big, fluffy beds would be nice, too. And since it is rather scenic, and I would suspect I would spend a lot of time on that porch; I think comfy chairs would be in order. Satellite TV? Nah. How about a stockpile of fun games instead?
I think you should probably install a Starbucks as well.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:25 am
If I knew I were coming to a ranch for a slice of ranch life, then I definitely wouldn’t expect a big city spa retreat. I think this house looks awesome with only a few items to be fixed, which you have already pointed out. Redo the bathrooms, update the appliances and maybe replace the deck and you seem set to me. I wouldn’t go all out and make them spa bathrooms either, just update your current floor plan with new fixtures. Otherwise, this looks like a fantastic lodge on a ranch!!! I definitely would not be expecting a spa with massages, etc. Just the basic amenities of a nice place to stay and the experience of ranch life. Looks like you have that already!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:26 am
Ree, we live and travel in our 40′ motorhome. How about some hookups for water and electricity and a parking spot. We bring all our own comforts of home and during the day enjoy the photo/cooking/cowboy life with other guests and your family. It is always nice to meet new people and experience new lifestyles. But it is equally nice to return to our own bed and bathroom and closets and privacy. Just a thought!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:26 am
This place looks incredible!
Here are my suggestions:
Keep the ranch feel…the house looks spectacular as it is. I can picture scrapbook retreats here as well with that big dining table!
One suggeston that I don’t see anywhere else is this: Is it possible to consider making the entrance and at least one bathroom handicapped (wheelchair) accessible? I have a son who uses a power wheelchair and he would love to visit a place like this. Also, if families travel together, it would be nice for someone who is older to have plenty of space to move around if needed. Just a thought.
Comfy beds, plush towels, and board games would be great for me. Also, nice chairs on the porch and cell phone and internet access. The rest is just gravy!!
You have a great house to start with! Good luck!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:28 am
A comfy bed and a warm shower are essential. I don’t mind dated bathrooms as long as they are CLEAN. Check out this five star guest ranch in Colorado. It’s only a couple hours from where I live in Denver. I’d love to stay there, but it’s $$$$$. They’ve been doing this successfully for over 60 years. Maybe it will spark some ideas. http://www.clazyu.com/contact-us.htm
October 26th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Outdoor hottub for soaking after a long day of ranch work! And, private bathroom if possible. A “work room ” for photoshop classes, quilting, scrapbooking etc would be great. Oh, and maybe a room that would accommodate a family — i.e. a main bedroom with a little “bunk room” connected? The biggest drawback for me when I’m staying at a lodge or B&B is worrying about who else will be there so I’m always drawn to places that have a little higher level of privacy. Good luck — great idea!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Oh how exciting!! The Lodge looks beautiful.
Good showers
Comfy beds, but don’t need to be extravagant
Good temp control - so it’s not too hot or cold
Laundry available, considering the state of clothes I’ve seen from your pics
Internet access
I think a massage would sound fabulous after a day at the ranch!
Kids’ activities for different ages
Family bedrooms or suites
Deck with rocking chairs - I agree with whoever said not to put the rail height at eye level when seated
Updated kitchen and baths
TV not necessary, but movies would be nice
Well-balanced meals, but not super fancy gourmet style - family friendly
Of course, you could do special themes for different groups or specific dates, like having a gourmet weekend, or ladies’ weekend, or scrapbooking retreats, homeschool family week, … what about a Broadway musical week where participants get to perform!
Can’t wait to hear how it goes!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:31 am
I too like the old lodge feel. I don’t think there should be tv or internet but for the people who just can’t live without it There can be a small media room with internet access and video watching. No Cable. You could put a sign on the door giving a 30 min limit on computer use in order to encourage relaxation. A library would be good as well. People could leave books they loved to share with the next guest. You could start a book club! Bed and breakfast style nice linens and fluffy towels. I don’t think you need spa services, but a hot tub would be nice. you could offer cooking classes and the classes could do double duty as lunch or dinner for the lodge guests.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:33 am
You should pitch this as a reality tv show!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:34 am
If I was you I would want to make sure I didn’t bring too much of the “real world” onto the ranch. The reason they will be coming is to experience the “ranch world.” Be true to ranch life and keep things somewhat rustic. Give them a taste of what your life is - not their life, but just on a ranch.
Down home cooking, big comfy furniture, basic accomodations, physical labor, outdoor activites, etc. Keep the internet, TV, hot tub, news AWAY during their visit. Keep furnishings believable to a ranch setting and not to sleek like what they have at home. Bathrooms and kitchens are important - no outhouses! Good old board games and card games would be great for those quiet times. Encourage life “the way it used to be.”
We’re moving from MN to Texas on January 1st. I’ve left the corporate world behind and we are hoping to find some land. I love your site and reading about your experiences. If you need any marketing help with your new business - look me up!
Linda
October 26th, 2007 at 10:35 am
Call me, I’ll help get things ready.. help out with a little flower bed around the porch, far enough away where they won’t get nitrogenized…I can paint, tile (in the rank amateur way) and do all sorts of odd jobs… Just let me come visit and be around the horses, cowboys, and the punks with my camera (a simple point and shoot)… Okay, now down to the brass tacks… If you are truly considering opening up the lodge for the above mentioned affairs, please consider having, at least indoors, handicapped facility’s. In the sense of doors to the bedroom and bathrooms (pocket doors are great for these) and to the outside wide enough for electric wheelchairs. And, perhaps, for those who can’t walk very much, a golf cart or two (remind you of your growing up days?) so they can get out and see the punks in action on the ranch and be able to participate, at least visually. Also, have you considered one night of chuck wagon cooking? As far as the rest, clean comfortable beds, perhaps with a recliner available for those who can’t sleep well lying down, clean bathrooms and an industrial kitchen for incredible cooking fests. That oughtta ’bout do it.. Any more question’s just ask. I’ve got a lot of ideas and would be right proud to help out. :-p)
October 26th, 2007 at 10:35 am
My suggestions:
GREAT towels and bath robes, clawfoot tub, fabulous linens.
Country or Western decor, with comfy furniture one can just sink into.
No tv, but yes to Satellite radio and a telephone. I think a small library, filled with classics perhaps, is a great idea.
It’s also handy to have essentials available in case a guest forgets toothbrush, razor, etc.
Make sure you leave a journal for people to leave entries about their stay.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:35 am
OMG, I’m so there! The check’s in the mail and I’m getting on a plane! Seriously, if you open this up, I want my name on the waiting list. I’ve only been reading your blog for TWO DAYS and I’m dying to come, Ree.
My Suggestions:
Decent bedding, nothing too fancy. You want guests to be comfortable, but you also want them to think they are experiencing exactly what it feels like to be a rancher.
Tech amenities should be limited. One common room TV, one common use landline (got to have something for emergencies!), one common computer/internet access area. The point of a vacay like this one is to try out a different lifestyle. I cannot stress that enough. People didn’t used to be connected constantly and I think it was a lot less stressful that way. Not to mention that if it’s going to kill someone that their cell or Blackberry doesn’t get service up there, they shouldn’t be coming anyway.
If you’ve got the money for a LARGE hot tub out under the stars, go for it. Otherwise good high pressure showers in the bathrooms would be fine.
Other spa amenities also should be extremely limited like the tech stuff. I don’t go to a ranch to get a pedicure, that would be silly.
Good luck, Ree!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:37 am
I agree with a lot of the others!! I love the “country” look. All the wood work is great!! Keep that. And the rock island in the kitchen is fabulous. Have you seen the movie Montana Sky, it’s a great love story and it takes place on Mercy Ranch. I love that ranch house!! Make it more woodsy and warm feeling, like you could grab a blanket and a cup of hot chocolate and sit on the leather couch with a fire going……..sigh……..I would love to go to a “dude” ranch. My DH thinks I am nuts!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:37 am
PW:
As chair of an art department with 8 full-time faculty that include two interior design professors, I don’t have the time to read all 300+ posts. Forgive me if I repeat what others have said.
First, a consultation with some interior design students (who wouldn’t charge through the roof for a consultation and might actually LOVE to take on a ‘hospitality’ project like this) couldn’t hurt. They wouldn’t tell you what you need aside from the occasional trend, but they would help you figure out how to implement what you determine you want.
As an artist who responds to your ideas about photo workshops - - I see the need for a darkroom for film processing and printing, another room with flat table-tops and stools for working artistically AND outfitted with a corkboard wall for pinning up works in progress for critiques….now, that’s a start. A few artist-residence sorts of places also provide ‘movement’ classes in the mornings…a little yoga, a little tai chi…good for the body and mind. That would require some sort of space that is pretty minimally outfitted, but still comfortable.
Regardless of the decisions you wind up making, I ENVY that space. I miss my graduate school studio. *sniff*
October 26th, 2007 at 10:39 am
Hmmm, I think a lot of that depends on how much you plan to charge and what type of people you want to attract. My in-laws have been on a couple ranch-type vacations– one was pretty rustic, the other was at a pretty fancy place complete with spa. I think basics would be good comfortable beds and tasty, hearty meals. Possibly internet access but I would skip the tv. (Maybe one available with some dvd’s in a media room?) My husband and kids would absolutely love to visit a place like that where they could pretend to be ranchers (as opposed to what we are, grain farmers) for a week.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:40 am
If you had another building on site that you could turn into the entertainment area that would be fabulous! You could have a little stage for karaoke (or broadway shows?!), a bar, and put the pool table, etc there. That way, people who want to be loud can go there and the lodge can be for reading/sleeping.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:40 am
Look at Big Cedar Lodge website www.big-cedar.com. It’s not a working ranch but they’ve got a comfy relaxing atmosphere mastered! They even have a “mom” that comes to your room at night with fresh baked cookies before bed. Incredible! What’s important to me when vacationing is the stuff I can’t get at home regularily because of crazy life, crazy kids and crazy job. good sleep, good food, and good company.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:41 am
Miz Boo is acting like Steve Martin up there.
Here’s my list:
* comfy beds. not the weird, new memory foam ones. just a real bed.
* down comforters with rustic/appropriate duvet covers
* rustic but stable furniture.
* soft sheets
* oversized towels
* robes
* spa not necessary
* internet yes
* tv optional
* throw blankets for the family room
* high quality but still ranch style food. Steak, potatoes, eggs, bacon, bisquits and the rest of your amazing gourmet stuff. No Ranch Style Beans. hehe.
* ranch activities; horse back riding, tours, assisting the ranchers, spending time talking to you.
* depending on the length of stay it would be nice to have access to a washing machine and dryer. (large family here)
* we go to a beach house in San Diego every year and each year she adds more cleaning on the list. I don’t like that. I’m on vacation.
* fire pit outside.
* a chance to meet Dr. Gene. (a clean Dr. Gene of course)
That’s all for now.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:42 am
Yay - I’m so glad you’re thinking of doing this. You probably don’t remember my email from months back asking if you would ever consider this…. although I probably wasn’t the only one begging
I think that people are coming to the ranch to get the middle-of-nowhere experience so keep the lodge toned down and super simple (it’s almost perfect as is!). Basic comforts you’ve already heard are neccessities: hot shower, wireless high speed internet avail for those who choose to bring laptops, comfortable beds with white sheets you can smell the bleach in, and clean private baths.
ooooh, I can’t wait!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:42 am
I love the idea! Would love a cooking and photography retreat. We live out in the middle of nowhere. (well as out in the middle of nowhere as you can live in CA) People just love coming out to our place to stay. They love to watch the horses run, hearing the cows moo and just the quiet of NO TRAFFIC. I know that if you do the lodge.. people will come!!! My needs are a comfy bed, a clean bathroom with a nice hot shower, tv and internet. Yes, even out in the middle of nowhere on vacation I need TV and internet.
A really cool outdoor kitchen with fire pits would be really cool, people could gather outside when the weather is nice.
Can I make my reservations now for 4th of July?? It’s my favorite holiday and I would just love to celebrate it MM Style..LOL
October 26th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Alrighty, I’ve been making notes and adding my own ideas as I scroll down through all of the comments. From my experiences staying at various lodges and hotels, I can say the following:
Step one would definitely be repairing the roof and the porch.
Step two, improving and modernizing the kitchen and bathrooms. Big deep farmhouse sink, professional grade appliances, nice deep soaking tubs, good water pressure from rainhead showers. Keep with the same nice yet rustic look you have going in the house - the black or brushed nickle fixtures, chunky tiles, etc.
Bedding - I like both quilts and luxurious looking things, but a nice threadcount on my sheets is personally a must - I’m not a big fan of pajamas, so I like whatever is against my skin to be soft and comfy - not rough or itchy. I’d say 300TC+, preferably 400. I don’t mean to sound spoiled, but just in the past couple of years I’ve really started noticing a difference. Extra pillows and blankets stored in the closets so that everyone can adjust the arrangements to their needs.
If you’re not keeping it strictly as a corporate retreat kind of thing, and families are invited as well, it might be nice to have bunk beds in a room or two, or at least a couch that can foldout, portable cots, and even some small portable cribs for babies (not the fullsize ones, but either a playpen or the travel size wooden cribs - those only run about $100). As a family of 7, I’m always on the lookout for a room that can easily accomodate our family (queen for mom and dad, queen for the 3 girls, and a foldout or cots for my 2 boys).
TV? No, I realy don’t think that you need Satellite TV in each of the rooms… but a nice big screen in the living room would be good - news is a big part of many people’s days, and I’ve always loved it when a lodge had a Family Movie Night. Pop in a movie, everyone spreads out with popcorn or yummy appetizers (veggie trays with dip, chips and salsa/guac, etc.) hot chocolate or fruit punch for the kids, coffee/tea and spirits for the adults.
Internet access? Oh if you’re having corporate meetings that is especially a big deal. Wifi is always nice. If it was solely for family vacations, it wouldn’t be as big of a deal, but I think with the business types… it’d be worth it.
Spa treatments? No, that wouldn’t be necessary in my opinion. I mean, if you wanted to turn it into a spa, you could, but then you’d be looking into hiring estheticians and massage therapists, etc. and I think it would be a bit of a headache. If I’m there with my kids, I wouldn’t have time for those things anyways.
Seven course meals? Oh heck no. In a setting like this, with that looooooong lovely dining room table, I’d be looking at family-style ranch grub. Big steaming bowls of mashed potatoes, lovely macaroni and cheese casseroles, stick to your ribs meatloaf and ribs and chicken, bowls of veggies. Pasta smothered in sauce with a chop salad and some of your delish olive bread. Breakfast of an oatmeal station, fluffy scrambled eggs, corned beef hash, fried potatoes w/ onions and peppers, sausage gravy, etc. Portable lunches that can be eaten on the go for hikes and picnics - hearty sandwiches, hardboiled eggs, etc. For cold days, rich and hearty soups and stews - french onion, beef stew, chicken and dumplings, etc. with hot loaves of homemade bread and local honey or preserves. (Again, if inviting families, be prepared to acommadate the younger children with some nice wooden highchairs, and melamine/unbreakable plates and cups.) Snack foods of things that are easy to munch on - roasted nuts, pretzels, etc.
Fill a bookcase with an array of paperbacks - everything from Westerns to SciFi, Romances to Medical Thrillers. I love to curl up next to a fire with a good book. Reading lights in the bedrooms.
Classic board games and decks of cards are nice to have on hand for evenings or inclement weather. Chinese checkers, checkers, (keep a chess set out on a small table!),Clue, Classic monopoly, etc. Poker chips! Inviting families? A few kid games are nice - Cooties, Candyland, Chutes and Ladders, Memory.
I’d include some wonderful black and white shots of ranch life on the walls… you already have a great selection of photos to choose from. Some nice aerial maps of the area are always interesting as well. Another feature that might be nice would be a guests photo album, where you can display photos that people have sent you from their vacations. A binder full of local attractions - hiking trails, restaurants, historical landmarks, glider or hot air balloon rides, shopping (antiques, local crafts, etc.), local festivals (4th of July, country fairs, etc.) anything along those lines (if you have any!)
If you’re offering trail rides and riding lessons, I would have riding helmets available for everyone and make them required for everyone under 18. It might actually be a liability requirement, but even if it isn’t, I would want it for peace of mind.
Oh, one more thing that I would like personally… filtered water in the kitchen. Just a simple to install under the counter kind - it truly makes such a big difference in the taste of things.
Don’t forget a well stocked first aid kit as well - there should never be a shortage of bandaids!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:45 am
I haven’t read everybody’s post, but the one thing that came to mind that I didn’t see posted, was the style of the bathrooms & tubs. I don’t think I’d put in jacuzzis or anything like that in the private bathrooms, but i would consider going “old traditional” with deep soaker claw footed bathtubs, and other matching fixtures, for Ambience and to relieve sore muscles if the retreat is a ‘working on the ranch’ retreat. By all means if you think a communal hot tub would be a good addition then go for it - maybe even try for a rustic feeling on that too? I’ve been in homemade wood hot tubs, and they just have more character, plus they are tailor made to you specs - these ones have all been super deep - 4-5 feet, so up to your neck easily.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Ok, I may be the only person who thinks this, but if it were me I’d want NO tv or phone service so I could truly “get away.” I wouldn’t want to visit your ranch just to be on the phone or watching movies I could watch at home! And if people bring their laptops or cell phones they may have the ability to do all that anyway…Maybe you could say “tv and phone available upon request” or something…And I’m undecided on the internet thing, I guess that would be almost as important as coffee on the addiction scale. But still, you want people to get away from it all…
Comfortable beds, and good showers are all good things. I wouldn’t go overboard making the bathroom modern because you want it to be ranch style, and the older it looks, the more it fits the experience.
I’ve stayed in a few ranch style b&bs and what I love about them are 1. lots of outdoor stuff to do for families (even just a simple game of horseshoes), and 2. lots of old books and magazines to flip thru if it’s raining…board games would fit in here too, 3. The “antiques” to ooh and ahh at.
What an incredible Lodge, Ree! I hope you guys get it going, it’d be a great idea! Owning a b&b has always been a dream of mine, although I don’t know if I could do it while also caring for 4 kids… you go, girl!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:46 am
I say skip the spa treatments, because once you go down that road, it may be hard to please everyone with the services you do/don’t offer (unless, of course, MM is doing the massaging!).
When I go away, I want an ultra-comfy bed, a SPOTLESS bathroom (I have issues with OPB {Other People’s Bathrooms}) and good food. It doesn’t have to be fancy food, but it has to be delicious.
I hate the thought of TV in a place like that. It would be an instant mood-killer for me.
I’d want the option of attending as a family, so family-friendly suites would be nice. Maybe Murphy bunk beds that tuck away?
I’m in love with the idea!!! Best of luck!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:46 am
I love the cabin feel of a vacation home and fireplaces are so great. Also comfy, soft bedding. Some outdoor furniture, like a swing on the porch would be a great touch. I think this is a great idea and people will definitely pay to stay there. How blessed you are that this ranch is your home.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:47 am
You must have a bonfire at night where your guests can make smores! Keep the ranch feel and leave out the TV’s and internet. It is always nice to get away from the world for a while. The Lodge would be a perfect place for scrapbook retreats as well as cooking classes and photography expeditions. My family owns property in a rural area and I have always dreamed of doing something like this as well. Go for it!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Oh, I forgot one VERY important aspect of staying away from home…
MUST NEED bedding options! Some like it hot, some like it cold so have stuff to satisfy both! I hate hate it when I go to a hotel and they have those wimpy blankets on the beds. I must have heavy blankets to sleep (even in warm climates). But I know some people like the thin blankets (my husband is one) so it’s good to have both.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:48 am
I have friends who are ranchers in Iowa, and when we stayed with them I slept on the sofa and my kids slept on the floor in sleeping bags, so your lodge looks PERFECT as is. I think I’d redo the bathrooms and maybe have an outside shower and a hot tub, but otherwise, it’s great. Oh, I’d pull up the old carpeting, too. Allergies and harder to keep clean.
As for the kitchen, maybe replacing the applicances, but the rest of it looks great as is.
Can I move in?
October 26th, 2007 at 10:51 am
If I was coming out to a ranch I don’t want a television or phone or internet access or anything like that around. I want the peace and quiet. I want to laze around and read a bunch of books, go for walks or hikes and watch the sunset. The point of going out to the middle of nowhere is to totally get away from all of that stuff. Sure, in the first 24-48 hours you can go through withdrawl, but I think it’s a good thing to get away from connections from time to time. It certainly doesn’t hurt. There may be some city folk who will balk at not having an internet connection, but they’ll get over it. No one’s THAT important. Keeping it as rustic as possible would be my choice.
I think a nice soft bed with quilts and comforters are the greatest. A warm shower too. And, bring on the simple satisfying food and cowboy coffee!
By the way, it reminds me our our family cabin out in the bush in Alaska. You can only get there by small plane. Even though we have a television we never turn it on and our phones are switched off as soon as we arrive.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:53 am
Ree,
I love the concept of retreats. However, I think for a retreat like this one the only real requirements would be the basic’s. No internet, no spa’s, no satellite TV, no hot tubs, none of they fancy stuff. My idea of a retreat is to “get away from it all” to slow down, to enjoy and discover new and different things. My only requirement would be great company, good food, hot shower and a warm comfortable bed and maybe a big porch with rocking chairs and big swing so you could sit out and look at the stars. AHHHHH …. I’m relaxed just thinking about it. Let me know when it’s done!!!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:55 am
Wow, Ree….I can so picture waking up there. Having been on several conference trips involving 1)Mary Kay women, 2)Church teens on mission trips and spritual getaways, and 3)a family gathering for a wedding, all in Gatlinburg where they have wonderful lodges in the mountains to rent let me give you this advice…our problems weren’t the sheets or the view by no means. We needed the ovens and stoves to work, and it was wonderful if it was industrial size. Large pots need lots of space. We needed any given space to be able to be made into one more bed however large or small (sleeper sofa somewhere). All bathrooms working and clean. Keep those cobwebs swept from outside porches and inside corners. Hot tubs were fun for the ladies, but not everyone wants to get in one they’re not sure of. Rashes from hot tubs that are unkept can cost you a series of Doctor visits. Gas logs are easier than worrying about flue fires and who’s gonna know how to build and maintain one (what do you do when it’s bedtime and the fire is still rolling? Is that log gonna roll off or stay on?). Some people really don’t know how to do those things. Glad your fixing those leaks…I spent one night on a couch staring at an elk head over a fireplace while moving a big bucket around to try and catch all the drips. Not good sleepin’ but my friend sleeping on the other couch and I made up some really funny stories about the elk. (yeah, I could tell some stories too!) lol One place we stayed had us load the dishwasher before we left and start it…strip the beds and put the sheets in the laundry room along with all our towels and washcloths. We were more than happy to oblidge. It’d been a wonderful week. All of them had scrapbooks to sign in and tell where you were from and how was your visit…As much as we love you and your blog life, I’m sure you’ll never have an empty lodge. We so feel like your family & we’ll all be fighting to get some time in where the skys are blue, and Ree and her MM man is just down the hill. You could offer several plans…horseback rides, ranch tours, hands on denutting and branding days, s’mores and weenie roasts, hayrides, leave us alone weekends, and free donuts on your last day delivered by your little angels. Don’t forget the Chambray shirts you’ll sell that say “I slept in the MM’s bed”…or “I slept in the Pioneer Woman’s bed” and cowboy hats, coffee mugs, and pickled calf nuts with your private label. LOL Good luck…aw heck you don’t need that - look at your website! Your lodge will be as much of a success! By the way, I’m new here. My daughter googles me Tuesday night and says…”Mom, you’ve got to read this!” And for 3 days and late nights I’ve been all over your site. Thanks for the laughter and awesome reading. Just when I think I know you, I learn something new about you…home schooling? Girrrrl!You’re awesome!!!! I am a Nana to 4..ages 13, 6, 4, and 2. I watch my 2 precious grandaughters every week day while mommys work, and pick up my grandson after school. What a handful! By the weekend I’m exhausted! God bless you and yours!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:55 am
I would definately need a comfortable bed… heavy nice pillows, heavy warm blankets. A shower with good water pressure that gets nice and hot is nice too. The kitchen appliances could be updated but I wouldnt go so far as to change the “feel” of the place. It is really beautiful. I would also either do a diff theme in each bedroom with all similar color pallets or do the same in every room. Definately TV/DVD for evening relaxing.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:56 am
deffinatly wi-fi.
especially if i’m going there on a photography trip. i would want to be blogging about it and posting my photos as i take them.
and plenty of board games… something about that living room makes me want to play scrabble.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:56 am
ree, i’m SO there! even though i’m a country living gal, i need a break! and i can’t think of a better place to get a bit of r & r than…in the country! a quilting retreat…with a buncha my friends. yesssssss! and when i need a break from all of the sewing, i’d grab my camera and head out.
my requirements? *clean*. i can put up with a lot, but clean is *a must*. don’t care to have t.v…make sure to have a microwave cuz i ain’t cookin’ no fancy meals (everyone fends for themselves).
see, i’m easy to please. and when i need a laugh, i’ll hunt you down for a burp or two. ;o)
i think it would be fabulous, but please consider how much time/energy you’ll have to put into it. you’re a home schooling mom on a busy ranch. if you have time to run this, i need lessons from you!
good luck!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:56 am
Nice it up with quality digs, but keep it very OK, very ranch but with a modern flair, of course use your photographs strategically and … call Cathy W.!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:02 am
I love the look of the lodge the way it is. Maybe spruce up the bathrooms a little. Did you ever consider renting it out for quilting retreats. I go on a few of these quilting retreats and quilters love to get away and bring their sewing machines and sew, sew, enjoy the view, relax, sew, sew and sew some more. The thing with quilters is they need lots of electrical outlets. For sewing machines and irons. I think the place is just lovely the way it is. It gives the feeling of old ranch life which, in my opinion is what people would want. Love quilting retreats. Just a bug in your ear. Terry
October 26th, 2007 at 11:02 am
Living on a farm now, the one I grew up on, I can tell you that it is a resort just to come home from work - to a secluded place with no neighbors or traffic.
I don’t think a spa treatment is necessary on the ranch, as it’s a whole different place. They have options of where to go, and I think if they want that, they should go to the city.
I think you should keep the overall look of the ranch with a couple of updated things. Internet is a must, but perhaps have a DVD collection so you don’t have to get satellite TV. A huge soaker, perhaps claw foot tub, for romance and just to relax - and yes, hot, hot water is a must.
I think as long as you make your guests feel welcome, you don’t need any fancy shmancy things. I’d update where needed (appliances, bathrooms) and perhaps the porch with a little fresh stain/paint. I’d also offer just a small gift basket when they arrive - perhaps a map of the ranch, things to do, a personal coffee cup (or two), fresh flowers (something like sunflowers, doesn’t have to be red roses) and just a little something to make them feel welcome. A good, country breakfast would be prime, as well.
Let me know when you’re finished - because even though I live on a working farm and there is a dairy farm behind ours, I would so love to visit a working cattle ranch. I won’t mind the smell, I promise. Hell, I probably won’t even notice it.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:03 am
Oh, and perhaps a book or some info on the history of the ranch!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:04 am
oh please have indoor plumbing and running water!! that’s an absolute must!!
but no jacuzzi. it’s a human soup germ fest.
wi-fi is a cool idea only because the person who commented before me said it would be important for uploading pix and blogging about it and i hadn’t thought about that initially.
seven course meals are absolutely unnecessary.
a comfy comforter and pillows. a nice, comfortable bed is a high priority. you know, right under that indoor plumbing.
satellite tv… cool.
spa treatments are a good idea, but i wouldn’t say it’s essential.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:07 am
This is amazing. I’ve been fantasizing that you would do this very thing. I think you’d want to balance amenities with authenticity. So, I vote for very comfortable beds with great linens, percale in the summer, flannel in the winter, with great showers and tubs, the tubs big enough for a good soak, but fancy spa stuff. Zero. There are plenty of farm B&B’s out there, especially in New England, Pennsylvania. Nothing fancy. Being in the fresh air and playing in the hay is enough. I stayed at a lodge in the Texas Hill country that was a little more upscale in the lifestyle amenities, so there’s a market for both. For your place, I think keeping it simple is the way to go. I will be there!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:07 am
I’m picturing a sort of rustic retreat kind of thing, with lots of riding, walking and picture taking.
Because of the physically draining aspects you are going to want nice quiet rooms (insulation between the bedrooms, good tight fitting windows). You’ll want to be able to let the outside in when you want (what about french doors instead of windows onto that wrap-around porch?). You’ll want relaxation at the end of the day (huge, long, hot showers and maybe a hot tub?)
Because of the retreat aspects you are going to want a minimum of distractions. I’d leave the TV out, but have a nice sound system (and music selection) for the living room and kitchen. Lots of power outlets for laptops, but the internet is optional. Printers and a CD burner would be nice, though, so the guests can share copies of their favourite photos at the end of the day. I’d also have a metric butt-load of books and magazines in a variety of genres. Oh, and maybe a bunch of board games and a few decks of cards. So you’ve got group entertainment and individual entertainment.
In terms of decorating, keep it personal. I love the big leacher couches and braided rug you’ve got now and the slatted wood ceilings. Use your own photos of ranch life to liven up the walls (it’s your own gallery!), and offer prints of the photos for sale. I know you have them on the website, but your guests will want a memento of their trip and it easier to pick from a group of prints then to go home and find one on the web.
The other thing I’d offer is specific classes/topics that you can mix and match depending on the group. I’d love to do something like this, but my experience with digital photography and photo editing leaves something to be desired. I’d love to have expert guidance while I was there. Everyone records their memories differently - what about writing workshops? Native botany and local history, even a bit of agronomy.
And by the way? I’d totally pay for something like this.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:09 am
During my high school summers, I cleaned houseboats in the great north words of Minnesota. They were in much worse shape than what your lodge offers now. They had no bathtub, no internet, no television. People who travel to remote destinations of our great country are going because they want to experience nature and get away from it all.
Everyone else has great ideas, but I think what’s missing most are the big front porch and a clawfoot tub for long hot baths. Hot, steamy showers are nice for most people, but a few of us love a hot bath. Especially in a clawfoot tub!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:11 am
Light. Lots and lots of light.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:12 am
Ree, you’ve got alot of reading to do!
I wouldn’t go to overboard.. update yes, comfy beds a must. The deck all the way around the house if possible…seems to be important to us 
I liked Jim F’s idea, good one Jim. Ree I can smell the coffe now.. I do agree with the down home cooking. Love the photo class idea. Internet seems to be a must for alot of people but…
Ya know Ree, I think most would be happy with whatever you and MM decide to do. People would be coming!
The most important thing to me would be relaxtion, enjoying people, watching the sunsets with a nice glass of wine. Of course I would have to go watch the nut cutting,, mountain oysters mmmm.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:13 am
It must be very clean.
Bright, airy rooms.
Outdoor areas to relax and enjoy the sunsets and view.
Dogs and cats. Maybe even a few chickens and a rooster!
A lot of cooking and good food…nothing fancy.
Quiet areas for reading, etc.
No TV, phone or internet.
Board games!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:14 am
Comfy beds (and pillows), decent coffee, and tasty vittles. I want to sit on that porch right now and soak it all in. I guess I am probably in the minority, but I think it would be an excellent opportunity to get AWAY from internet access and satellite TV. I think if people are so scared to not have a laptop for a few days then maybe they need to take a step back and remember what it looks like outside. Board games were a good suggestion somebody made, and a photo retreat sounds so fun.
I think that lodge looks so nice and I think in order to preserve it for posterity you guys wouldn’t want to modernize it to the point of forgetting where it came from. You don’t live in the city and that is the great part that hopefully people will be able to experience.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:16 am
Dear Ree, are you sufficiently overwhelmed yet? You have gotten great input re: many issues that must be addressed: health dept., fire marshal regulations, ins. liabilities, etc. My contribution (from a retired grandmother in her 60’s) is re: the “serious” thinking required about how drastically such a plan will change your family’s daily life unless you are very realistic and selective in choosing the type of clientele you wish to invite into your life, the experiences you can and cannot offer them, and the limits you will have to set re: their inclusion into your world - not to mention the extra employees needed to run such an operation!! All of which I know you and MM are wise enough to consider carefully at this time. The lodge itself is wonderful and I joined everyone else in daydreaming of staying there with my two grandsons, or just myself and my husband, riding horses, seeing ranch work up close (except the calf nuts part!) and rocking on the porch, gazing at beautiful sunrises and sunsets!! I am enjoying your website, photos, recipes, and talented writing. Best wishes always…….Carolyn
October 26th, 2007 at 11:17 am
The Lodge looks wonderful as is I’ll have to take yr word on it that it needs work. I think the idea of cooking glasses etc is great, I would stay there and enjoy day to day country living, but since I live in the country anyways I know how to do that. Some nice basic amenities like internet service, good hot water etc etc is needed. There is a place about an hour from us that also has a large telescope that they set up every night which is a lot of fun. Outdoor barbeques are essential, outdoor breakfast is fun. Nature hikes for the kids and some goals on types of flora and fauna they can site, maybe with a notebook to keep track of their finds. I would love to do something like this, sounds like a lot of fun
October 26th, 2007 at 11:18 am
I haven’t read the 350-odd comments before mine, but given the enthusiasm of this discussion, I’d say that you could decorate it with salmon tile and velvet paintings and you’d still have a willing clientele!
PS. I’d want thick towels, hot water, a kitchen stocked with enough dishes/pots etc. so I never had to leave except to buy food, a working fireplace (see my previous FM shopping guide post) and WiFi.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:18 am
Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.
Does that sum up my feelings?
And okay, I think a retreat is a retreat for a reason. So I would say, have one computer there that has internet access — no wireless internet or anything because a retreat is a retreat is a retreat. Same with cable t.v. Maybe one in a central location… but even that is not really necessary because a retreat is a retreat is a retreat.
Horses would be necessary. An old retired dog that warmly greets visitors and likes to sleep by the fire would be awesome. This of course is something I would love but your allergic visitors might think I’m a sadist.
Clean bedrooms, a nice but not over the top, fancy, bathroom is a must. In other words, it should have a nice shower/bath and a good vanity *with* drawers or shelves to hold toiletries is important but nothing super dooper fancy.
If I am being totally honest, nothing is as inviting as in floor heating. :^D I know I’m amping up the bill, but seriously… nothing is as nice as that. That and instant hot water.
I agree that you will need a super big refrigerator and probably multiple ovens and stove tops. But a homey feel to it is nice too — not a really industrial look, ya know? But then easy to clean is good so if that means a more industrial look then so be it. :^D
An outdoor jacuzzi would be really awesome. To sit out there, and listen to nothing but the sound of “the wind sweepin’ down the plains” carrying with it the nostalgic smell of cow dung (really… I mean, it’s a ranch, not a feed lot so it would probably end up being a nostalgic smell right?!) An enormous wrap around porch, like your new one (only going almost all the way around so that people could have some space between them and their neighbors if they want to spread out for study, quiet contemplation, making out… you know… so a giant porch would be essential right? Porch swings and rocking chairs a plenty (like the ones in front of the Cracker Barrel restaurant) would be awesome.
Would this include a “city slickers” type of option too? Horseback riding and “participation in” (though it would really be more, watching!) a real working ranch… This has always been something we wanted to do as a family when our kids are a bit older.
Oh and when can we start booking trips?! I am so comin’ to meet ya!! ;^P
That building you have there is AWESOME and has SO much potential! I mean, it looks pretty awesome as it is, but if we’re shooting for the stars, I’d add some of the things that I named here. :^D
October 26th, 2007 at 11:19 am
Like lots of others have said, good coffee, comfy beds, and hot showers are the only essentials. Spa treatments not necessary, although I’ll bet your girl punks could give some good manicure lessons! I’d forgo the hot tub - too much of a pain to maintain it. Also second the advice on easy care floors such as hardwood, vinyl and even good old linoleum (”Marmoleum” is a popular updated line.) A nice porch to sit and relax, take in the view and just hang out would be nice too.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:22 am
Ok Ree, here’s the deal. What do YOU want to offer? How much do you want to devote to all these City Slickers and entertaining them? I mean, have you watched Tori & Dean Inn Love? People can be annoying and super demanding. Besides, you have amazing taste in all things delicious, funny and stylish. You know what good quality is, so why rely on what we think? I’m all about the whole “do unto others” thing. All the things that others have said are the norm–hot, heavy showers, comfy bedding, yummy food, excursions etc. Duh! Do we have a doubt in our minds that you, YOU! of all people would skimp out on that stuff. Doubt it. I think what you’re asking you already have the answer for. We’re just asking for the invitation to share your experience…calf nuts and all.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:22 am
Ree,
What an awesome place! If people are coming for a retreat, forget about the tv, don’t even have one. I am an internet FREAK, but forget that too!!! Heaven forbid people would have to MINGLE with each other. I think maybe fireplaces in some bedrooms. Gas lit that require no venting. Update the bathrooms, maybe even just with a little paint and prob the sinks, update the appliances in the kitchen, make the porch more stable and that’s it. Let me know when you start taking reservations cause me and my WHOLE family are coming!!!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:23 am
OK!!!!!! The first thing you both need to consider is how much Prozac/Advil you have on hand BEFORE you start this project!!!! You will learn quite quickly that no matter how well you plan, some little gremlin comes along, steals your plans and leaves a “better idea” for you that will cost three times what you expected. You will need lots of coffee, drugs and counseling. You will have to say ther following to yourself 3 times a day- “I will complete this project during my lifespan and I will not inflict any harm to anyone associated with this project”. So far I haven’t seen any blood on anyone-good thing I’m a nurse
P.S. My husband and I are currently working to complete the destruction and remodel of our 1895 farm house in rural Northern Idaho. The last remodel was done in 1973 by a person with a slight “thing ” about rock and the color orange. Best of Luck!! Deb Harris RN
October 26th, 2007 at 11:25 am
I haven’t been able to read all the replies so these may be duplicates. Most important to me: New bathroom flooring (I hate to be barefoot at a strange place with old floor). Good showerhead. Good pillows. Lots of games and such for kids to do. A hammock outside would be ideal. Picnic table/outside sitting/firepit possibly. Least important: TV. Everything else looked really nice.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:28 am
A retraeat to me is a comfy bed with a soft comforter, hot water(lots) and a view. I prefer no distractions so I would be putting a tv in a central area and maybe a computer but that is it. From there for the kitchen retreat I would say update you stoves, fridge and ovens. Lots of pots and maybe two dish washers. Amenities should be tied to the retreat theme. Can I come to your cooking one. My husband loves the Marlbaro Man sandwich
October 26th, 2007 at 11:31 am
I like the way the Lodge looks now. The repairs you talked about would be nice but other than that why offer a lot of extras. People are coming to get away from it all. Internet access would be nice because hubby has to sometimes work even on vacation. Hot water, shower, bath tub, comfortable bed, and good food is all we require…we don’t even need t.v.
Most importantly, what would you want if you were to go on a retreat? What would you want for you and your family? Basically, it comes down to what you and MM want.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:31 am
I will work for food and a place to sleep… I would love to do something like this , or a B&B. Just dont have the resources, unfortunetly. Hot water, strong coffee w creamer of course,yummy food but not necessarily 7 course meals, photography courses , woohoo!! along with photoshop… a hot tub would be good, something for the kids if I gotta bring them with me,cows, horses would work, my son thinks hes a dog anyway, he can round up the animals… LOL oh and comfy beds like they have at Hampton Inns.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:31 am
Wow, that’s incredible…your guest house is bigger than any home I could ever hope to own out here in California. Then again, I don’t have four punks (just two evil kitties), so there’s no way I could put that kind of space to proper use.
If I were to go to the retreat you describe, I would want a clean, simple experience. Too often I find that people can confuse “rustic” with “dirty” — not okay. Having grown up in the sticks, I’m not one for antlers on the wall or any of the campy touches that city folk equate with a country experience. Also, it always drives me crazy when there isn’t enough light in “country” accommodations; okay, I’m out in the country, but that doesn’t mean that I should have to read my book by candlelight! Speaking of books, throw a library in there ’cause chances are good I’ll tear through what I brought pretty fast. And why not stock some board games so my fella doesn’t get too bored while I have my nose stuck in a book? Do-it-yourself laundry facilities are good, too, especially if there’s a chance I’ll be tromping around outside trying to find a horse to fawn over.
Simple meals are good: morning spread of quick breads, muffins, maybe some sort of porridge or hotcakes; fruit, nuts, jerky to snack on (especially if it’s homemade jerky…I’m dribbling at the mouth a little); a quick lunch of sandwiches or rice & beans; and simple, seasonal dinners (some animal protein — like riiiiiiiiibs, and cue drool again — with a hearty but healthy vegetable (in this kind of situation I can count corn as a veggie instead of a grain) & some sort of potato for starch).
Things I don’t want are a TV, weak instant coffee, too much of a chance to get online and distract myself from my retreat, and too little opportunity for me time.
Good luck — I’d be happy to come by and do some on-site research for you!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:32 am
nice comfy beds. places to sit and read and relax - porch swings, comfy chairs, etc. updated bathrooms and kitchen (but don’t have to be state of the art). good hot strong shower. disconnected from civilization is okay (no telephone, internet, cable TV) — but the ability to pop in a movie might be nice
October 26th, 2007 at 11:33 am
I agree that one more bathroom would be nice. Or a sink and vanity in each bedroom so people could get ready while others were doing their business on the pot.
How about a large patio or deck off the back for family games or something like that? I look at that lodge and it just screams “FAMILY REUNION” to me. What about a fire pit or horseshoes or something out back?
October 26th, 2007 at 11:34 am
Clean. Everything works. Decent beds. You have a fantastic location. I took one look at the huuuge dining room table and in my head I saw a kick-ass quilting retreat. It’s gonna be fantastic no matter what you do with it. Can’t possibly go wrong with that space and locaiton!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:34 am
The lodge is lovely. What I recommend is better ‘curb appeal’. Fix the deck outside and plant some lovely green plants. Also, the bathrooms would be the next thing to remodel. Also, it should have all the high tech amenities that a lot of people come to count on to stay connected with their lives and the world. Other then that, it is gorgeous!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:35 am
It doesn’t need that much major stuff… just a face lift. I would upgrade to slightly bigger bathrooms with really good showers as mentioned before. I would redo the porch, fix the leaks, and toss some new appliances in the kitchen, but it doesn’t need to me anything super fancy. People enjoy that rustic charm when they are out in the country. I’d come… for sure.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:35 am
One thing I think is essential is a bathtub. A nice big deep one where you can soak away stress. But it shouldn’t be too deep, as moms like me need a place to bathe their little kids. I went to a B&B once where they only had showers, no baths, and I had to bathe my kids in a big sink. Not very convenient, though the kids thought it was great fun.
Another great idea would be little animals for the kids to pet and feed. And ponies they could ride.
Spa treatments would be lovely, but not really necessary.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:39 am
I think the experience would overshadow the cosmetic end of it, however if you felt a need to revamp things, the hot strong shower is one I would agree with. A nice big bonfire in a fire pit, maybe a steak grilled over a mesquite wood fire on an outdoor grill. The lodge main rooms look great the way they are. If kids were allowed to share in the experience I know my grandkids love helping bottle feeding some of our calves. How about some rocking chairs on the porch. One thing that has stayed in my memories was the shampoo & conditioner that is used at the Ritz Carlton in Laguna Nigel…..smelled like gardenias sort. Can’t wait to see how this turns out.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:39 am
I like all the ideas I’ve already read. Internet access being the biggest. My mom lives on a ranch with no power or cell phone access and you have NO idea what a ruckus it causes with the hunters that come with the hunting club!
The very first thing I’m thinking of Ree is the hired help it will take to run this sort of thing. You’ll need people to do housekeeping and to run all these activities. First and foremost you have a ranch to run and MM and his crew can’t be interrupted all the time to handle 9 million questions or schedule changes because they found a sick cow that has to be treated. Include a place to have commercial sized washers and dryers. Not just for bedding but possibly for your guests to use.
After that…. sign me up! I’d just like to get away to someplace different.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:40 am
I’d say that internet would be nice, though not mandatory, if only because I’m addicted to my computer. But I would actually prefer not to have television–it would mean I’d have to go find my own fun and would enjoy the ranch more. On second thought, scrap the internet, I don’t need the temptation. Though if your guests are staying longer than a couple days, they might appreciate brief use of a computer, just to check their email. As for what food to offer, different packages might be a good idea. Some people might hate to cook, whereas others might want to take advantage of the (newly remodled!) kitchen.
This guest house is a great idea, sounds like fun!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:41 am
Oh, hire a professional. I’m in the middle of a remodeling project at work, and the details are mind-blowing. I’m so glad I have professionals to lean on. I love how the lodge looks now, but if you’re thinking of having paying customers, I’d get a little paid design advice before doing a thing. All the other stuff - sheet quality, coffee, cinnamon buns - start with the things you yourself love (you have great taste). I’ll stay just about anywhere so long as it’s CLEAN.
Oh, and start tearing pictures and articles out of your favorite magazines, pin them up on a wall somewhere… that’s how I get going!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:45 am
I think you’ve outlined the things that need work, but as far as what’s essential? Well, it depends on what kinds of groups you want to ger in there. If you’re talking family groups looking for a vacation/relaxation, then I submit the following: A nice porch to sit on and rockers to sit in; Internet access; decent showers/bathroom facilities; fluffy towels and soft comfy sheets; bunk rooms where you can put 4,6 or 8 kids; workable (but not necessarily “fancy”) kitchen with decent appliances; laundry room. And having some activities like you outlined would be cool, but I’d love to also have “ranch work” to do.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:45 am
Well, I already think your lodge looks like a wonderful place! For me, personally, I think that I’d be looking for a place to get away from the hustle and bustle of everyday life, a place to relax. So long as the place is clean and the bathrooms and kitchen appliances are in good working order, I’d be pretty happy. I’d definitely want internet access. Satellite TV would be good, but not necessary. I’d be okay with doing all my meals on my own if all the cookware, utensils, and dishes were available. On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind if a meal or two were provided for me either. I’d also be looking for affordability because it gets really expensive to vacation with 4 children! Anyway, I think it sounds like a fun idea. Best wishes for your new possible remodel!!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:45 am
Wow, is that really a lime green toilet?
Got air-conditioning?
Got a good quality matress?
Got privacy and a “getting away from it all feel?”
That’s all I need.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:45 am
I would:
1. Rebuild and enlarge the porch but keep the rustic style, just make it more amenable to a nice gathering together with beverage in hand after a long day (or morning coffee before the long day begins).
2. Have good coffee. I just stayed at the nicest B&B in Taos but the coffee was challenged, shall we say. It makes all the difference to me.
3. Wireless internet is the only citified thing I would add. I’m too insecure to travel without my laptop.
4. Update the bathrooms before the kitchen. Fix the appliances in the kitchen and call it good. Down the line you can always redo the kitchen but it is a pricey remodel.
5. (This probably should be number three but I am too lazy to change it all.) Fix any leaks and water damage.
Even without all that, it’s a bitchin’ home and anyone in their unright mind (just speaing for those I know) would be thrilled to stay there. When do the workshops begin?
October 26th, 2007 at 11:46 am
Just make sure the newly refurbished bathrooms are handicap-accessable in case some one brings Grandma along.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:46 am
I haven’t checked the other responses — too many to read! But I’d say: heating and A/C that work; comfy beds with extra blankets stored somewhere handy; NO TV, please! But good internet access is important. As far as the bathrooms, size does NOT matter to me at all - just as long as everything works, and there’s TP, I’m good. A kitchen where everything works nicely makes meals run so much more smoothly. Unless someone there was cooking for us, then that wouldn’t matter to me! I like the living room a lot! On the unschooling gatherings I’ve gone to, I’ve appreciated having one large space where folks could gather and chat, do different crafts, etc.
I’m there! When do we sign up? LOL
October 26th, 2007 at 11:50 am
A good shower with good water pressure, clean sheets, internet access and some television available. When do you open? I’m there! We’ve always wanted to do something like that. I’d love for my punks to get a taste of real work and my hubby has always wanted to be a cowboy. I’d love some photo and cooking time as well. Sounds perfect!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:51 am
I only have a sec, but I would recommend (because I am addicted to “home porn”) is along the same lines as most of the other wonderful commenters.
I would choose rooms I like out of magazines and copy. Choose a great kitchen from an appliance/industrial kitchen guide and run with it. If it is at all possible to stick with a ranch theme or antique feel I think people would rather stay there than the hotel in town. People are driving out there for a certain sort of ambiance, I presume. Keep the stuffed deear head is what I am getting at.
And I agree a great shower is the best bang for your buck.
Jacuzzi….people will travel miles just for a jacuzzi.
This Lodge is amazing…I would stay there in a heart beat.
(Oh, are their horse shoes…would love to play some horse shoes)
October 26th, 2007 at 11:52 am
My family recently stayed at a lodge for a week. It had comfortable beds and a great shower much like your new one. The view was terrific off the deck and there was absolutely NO internet, tv, satellite radio, etc. I know people think they cannot live this way but our family will never forget that week! Keep it real!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:53 am
Gut the thing and start over. That way you’ll have lots to BLOG about.
Also, lots of exposed wood beams.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:55 am
To have the trip paid for in full….sounds wonderful….will you have 95%off packages?….with 4 kids in tow hmmmm…hope it’s gonna be free…LOL sounds like a great idea….everything that I love to do in one place, and I agre with those that say it doesn’t need that much…bathrooms yes, and fix necesseties….but rustic is good….love the living areas, LOVE the dining table…I’d put a skylight or two in the kitchen…
October 26th, 2007 at 11:57 am
Definitely would want a ranch feel with lots of comfort. Cozy, fluffy down comforters, modern appliances but not top of the line, nice t.v. but not in view, bathrooms that are up-to-date but not luxurious, a balcony that looks rustic but not dangerous. It’s so nice right now but take away the dated look, add a little more lived-in look, comfort, and a lot of ranch decor. In other words, spend a lot of money but don’t make it look expensive
October 26th, 2007 at 11:59 am
What I need:
Comfy beds, usable washrooms, decent food, great company.
I don’t think you should look for spa treatments at the Lodge - sitting in front of a nice fireplace (does it have one of those?) with great people is important. Wide open spaces to walk and take pictures. A comfy bed and quiet bedroom to get a good night’s rest.
I think I love the Lodge already and I am with the many others that say “where so I sign up?”
October 26th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
I love the place. Yes, a little work needs to be done to fix damage, but sweetie that place doesn’t need a lot. Maybe different colors for the Baths. Which by the way are not tiny to us non-ranch people(I could show you tiny here in my North Pole AK hall bath.)
I think you have a great idea. A spa wouldn’t fit there. When I look at your ranch(which I wish you had pictures of your house inside and out,) I think relaxation and learning a little of the ranch, and of course, meeting you and your great family.
Lynn
October 26th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Personally, if I want to go to a spa I’ll go to a spa. if I want to go to a ranch, then I’m not expecting a spa. What I’d anticipate is something similar to my own home–it’s comfortable to the point where no discomfort intrudes on the experience, but it’s not so over-the-top that I’d rather lounge around my room than go out and do the activities I came there for in the first place!
I would suggest upgrading the bathrooms, perhaps only visually. If everything works, great. No need for fancy fixtures; for me, at least, the most important aspect is cleanliness. If you can upgrade the kitchen appliances to handle more traffic without losing the rustic feel, fabulous! Consider whether your clients/visitors/guests will be helping in the kitchen (preserve the ambiance) or whether you’re planning to do it all yourself/hire some assistance (go for streamlined efficiency).
Personally, I wouldn’t want Internet access because I’d waste time there rather than enjoying something else…it’s a getaway, right?
And in terms of food, I think simple and hearty is a pretty good bet. You can never go wrong with grilling!
October 26th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
You have received many great responses, with specific ideas. My advice, though, is that before you can decide on the scope of your remodeling project, you will need to be more concrete in the vision for the use of the property. Knowing the type of clientele you plan to accommodate will help you to determine whether to go for a more business/electronics focused space versus a family retreat/getaway spa feel. Of course, you could also cover it all, and then the space could be used for both types of customers. Maybe a couple of high-falutin’, deadline-driven, business conferences per year would help pay the rent, and then you could be more free to plan other, more unique, types of retreats driven around you and your family’s interests.
Since you have already been through some renovation, you know that it is like giving birth: once the baby is in your arms, you forget all the pain of labor and delivery… Ha! I’ve given birth to five children, and I think that bit of “wisdom” came from the more starry-eyed among us (or someone with full-time help and terrific pharmaceuticals). What I do believe - both about giving birth and going through remodeling - is that the results are both rewarding and challenging, and I mustn’t take the cost of the process for granted when considering whether or not I’d do it again. So…if you and MM are lusty enough to start the ball rolling on another big project (the ranch re-do, I mean) then expect that it will require physical endurance, cash, time, cash, patience, cash, sacrifice, cash, and love to see it through to the end.
My vote is this: if said project will serve as more fodder for your delightful writing and delicious recipes, then go for it!
October 26th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
THE most important thing for me is a personable ’staff’….and I think your Lodge already has that, with YOU and Marlboro Man at the helm.
I do like to be warm at night when I sleep and I appreciate a good shower at the end of a day on the ranch, doggin’ around. Keep it simple, but clean…..that’s all I can say.
Rustic is good too…..but not ‘rickety’…..I’m already ‘rickety’, so I don’t need it when I vacation. GOOD LUCK !
October 26th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
If I were to stay there, I would enjoy….
1. Classic Ranch Decor; lots of wood, navajo blankets, probably a saddle or 2 hung over a sawhorse for the kids to ride, etc
2. Internet access (sorry, but it’s a way of life for most people)
3. The softest, deepest mattress that money can buy. There would be white sheets (300+ threadcount) a goosedown comforter with 2 thick pillows for each person to lay their weary head upon
4. Themed bed rooms. How fun would THAT be??
5. Roomy tub/shower combo with a wide rain shower head and hand held sprayer (Costco has these). One of the bathrooms would have a soaking tub (NOT a jacuzzi style as these are ALWAYS broken in hotel rooms–and they are loud)
6. Meals: Options to have a western BBQ (hey, these are people who want to see how a real cowboy lives), breakfast only (rolls, breaksfast casserole, etc)or to have YOU stock the fridge for them–they pick out what they want and you shop for them so the fixin’s are already there without effort on their part.
7. No spa–but how about using it as an option–you’ll act as the concierge and make the appointments for the massage therapist to come in (with her table of course)and the tranaction is between the two of them.
8. Books available (have a variety)
9. Movies (DVD’s) available
10. TV/DVD (some kids don’t know how to unwind without a TV –which is sad)
11. Alarm clocks
12. Handicap access–bathroom handrails, ramps to house, wider doors
13. Baby stuff available like crib, high chair
14. A few safe, indestructible toys–that can be bleached between visits and stored out of sight
15. Phone (?) Most have cell phones, but I don’t know what kind of reception you get out there.
Hope this helps!
Tammy
October 26th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
Well personally you have to decide the demographic you want to appeal to. Is it younger singles/couples? Women? Families. If it was me I would like a spa option light and ranhc style meals, with horseback riding and some other ranch activity. But that’s me. You need good bathrooms and kitchens, that’s a must. HBO and internet because some people just still have to be connected. Oh and did I mention good food. If you are offering it only for weekend retreats you could get small church groups and other groups as well.
Good Luck.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
why am i commenting when there are so many already? i don’t know.
but here’s my 2 cents.
down comforter, nice plush bedding as stated. clean earthtoned tile with a rain shower head up top. maybe even a steamer shower - they are great - no jacuzzi or tub, because they harbor bacteria and you never know..uuhh.
get a wolf oven and cook top with extra large grittle
don’t do carpet keep the flooring to tile and wood
use wooded earthtone colors - sage, browns, tans a bit of golden yellow maybe -tv and satalite and spa treatments - yes
internet - not necessary
those are my idea’s.
it is a beautiful space! love it!
October 26th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
This is a piece of cake for you- Let’s see you’ve already remodeled your kitchen, and you’ve recently remodeled the bathroom, so you know what to do, there, too. You’ve also, hmmmm, done a porch remodel this year. I’d say you’re halfway to fixing this baby up. (I’d suggest sticking with wood on this porch, though.)
That said, can you do this pretty quickly? I’m ready for a vacation, and a photography workshop would be just the thing.
Comfortable beds, private bathrooms with good showers, and comfortable chairs are what you need.
You could have two types of retreats- professional ones where you bring in a cook, and “girlfriend” ones (your blogging girlfriends, of course) where we cook for ourselves and clean up for ourselves. We could choose several of your recipes, someone brings all the ingredients, and we cook together, for example. Or, we could each bring a meal to cook based on our own spectacular recipes.
And I will bring the coffee, and not that Starbucks brew either, but delicious Colombian beans and a French press.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Open the kitchen to the living/dining area. There is nothing worse than going on a family or group vacation and having just a few people stuck in the kitchen with no way to interact with the people in the main living area. I also think it is a great idea to do a combo of queen/king sized beds and twin sized beds in the same room so families can bunk together. When you are ready for guests, let me know, I have two little cowboys who would love learn a thing or two about ranch life….
October 26th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
You already have it all! All the extras are nice, but the things you talked about offering are what would bring me! Plus we already think we know your family, so it would be like a reunion anyway!
The only reason I would like to see you re do the lodge would be to see what you would do with it and all the great before and after pictures.
I live in a 550 square foot one bedroom condo with my two kids and a dog, so I am ready to move into your lodge already. We are homeschoolers too, so we should fit right in
October 26th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Wow, this sounds fabulous! I think having internet access and *a* TV are realistic since while we love to vacation, we also do have to remain accessible to our jobs.
Beng able to soak in a large tub with some bath salts is definitely a plus.
For me though, the one thing I always hope for wherever we vacay is having a strong shower. Oh and having the shower head be at “tall people” height so we’re not bending backwards trying to get our hair wet. And having a big enough shower for two is a very nice bonus
Don’t think at all you need spa services!
The ranch is beautiful and don’t think you need to do tooo many updates.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Wow - it looks like a wonderful place to stay! My dream would be a quilters weekend. Ever read and Earlene Fowler’s Benni Harper mystery books? “Broken Dishes” has a Ranch guest house/dude ranch kinda theme/background in it. Just as in the book, I can see quilters coming for a week/weekend retreat w/ classes and fun.
Plenty of Hot showers - plenty of hot water for a crowd of folks. (Nothing worse than running out of hot water!)
Fluffy/nice BIG towels, don’t skimp in the size of the towels.
Rocking chairs & a swing on the porch, and leading off them porch maybe a patio w/ a firepit. Hot tub- not essential, but some folks like ‘em.
TV - DVD player & some classic western movies, satellite would be nice.
Computer access/internet - most folks are tied to these & would like them.
Comfy sheets - not cheap ‘hotel’ sheets. Nice soft sheets
Update the appliances - but it’s not necessary to go over the top w/ restaurant grade fancy-smancy exuecutive chef type appliances. Just something reasonably modern, functional, and easy to clean.
Catering/chef services could be optional… offered at an extra charge. Some folks like to be served, others like to do for themselves. A picnic basket for folks to pack up & enjoy.
Books need to be available on a shelf - nature books for identifying local birds, wildflower, wildlife etc. And other books of interest - cowboy/western novels and history, stargazing, etc etc.
A blank journal for folks to put down their thoughts & experiences. We saw this at a cabin where we celebrated our anniversary…it was so cool to read other peoples entries, poems, adventures (a bear siting!), and just general messages. There were several years worth of journals sitting around for us to read. We added our own entry before leaving.=)
Lots of your wonderful photographs on the walls! And photo albums of your work. To add to the journal idea - have folks send you a photo from their stay at the Lodge…add these into an ongoing scrapbook or photo album. Offer a photography session - people love “professional” photos of their vacations.
A handy-dandy guide/map to the local area - history, shopping, eating out, etc etc etc. AND include medical/hospital info. in case of emergencies.
Fix the problem areas - leaks, rotting porch, etc. It’s got to look nice - rustic is okay, but delapidated isn’t.
Good Luck! It sounds like a great idea with OOOOODLES of potential! I know I’d like to stay there!
Donna Mc
GA
October 26th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
I wouldn’t need spa treatments or seven course meals. I wouldn’t expect those out on a ranch. I’d want to go to your ranch to get away from it all, enjoy the wide open space, experience a different kind of life, but at the end of the day come home to a hearty meal I didn’t have to cook myself and take a long hot shower and fall into a comfy bed in my own room. So I’d put new bathrooms in a neutral color scheme at the top of the list, with big showers, lots of hot running water (steam shower? ooh) a bench in the shower. As for the jacuzzi if I was playing at any ranch work, it would come in handy, but since the lodge seems to be a big group house it might foster more interaction if it was one of those 10-person outdoor thingies (get your mind out of the gutter!). Comfy beds, of course with nice linens and lots of blankets. A fireplace somewhere central that you could sit around on cool nights. Big group meals in the evening and breakfasts with hot coffee in the a.m. And I’d set up that kitchen so a pro could do the work but guests could get in there and get a snack if they want one (sort of like a B&B).
October 26th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
You have so much potential there! Wow. Having just spent the last 6 years, completely remodelling our 10,000 sq foot B&B, which used to be a barn, I can sure related with what you are thinking of doing. RUN! Run for your life!
OK, but really,if you look up rating requirements for places like AAA, it gives you some ideas of what an upscale place requires. Bathrooms need to be tile and marble…things along that line.
I would be glad to send you my hubby, who lives to design things like that. People always marvel at our place, and I get to say “I had nothing to do with it, I just cook breakfast.” While I am poster # 1,000,000 or something, and you have gotten tons of advice, I would be glad to help with any questions of how to run something like that and homeschool 4 critters at the same time!
October 26th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
First of all, if hubby & I are there, and the kids are not, just give me a door that locks!
If my crumb crunchers are along, letting them run off energy through your millions of acres, will make us happy, as it will make them tired.
A good bed & very clean rooms are of utmost importance.
Some perks? Good meals provided. For me, the other stuff would be great, but unnecessary. But I’m sure you’d find a lot of people interested in the things you mentioned.
A great idea, some crazy scrapbookers, will pay big dollar to go & spend a weekend scrapbooking on big tables (like yours!). They are waited on & are able to leave all their gear & materials right where they left off, for meals & bed times.
You could make quite a coin doing this!
I think you guys are so neat. If this turns into a business, sign me up as one of the first patrons!!
October 26th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
I would totally recommend doing a “bunk room” for the kids! We have one at our beach house and they have so much fun hanging out, having pillow fights and watching movies.
And like others say, a hot shower and a comfy bed. You should keep the overall look the way it is. Sure you need to update the baths and kitchen but it is a “rustic” lodge and people know what they are coming for. An outdoor firepit for smores would be awesome!
Sounds like an exciting project and I would love to come with my 4 girls and get their prissy butts up there to experience ranch life!
October 26th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Wow, that’s a nice place! I’d say fix the appliances and leaks, update at least one of the bathrooms, fix the balcony (outdoor jacuzzi would be cool, especially if you’re taking city-folk riding) and that’s about it. I think it’s nice as-is, but if the stove decided to quit working that would be a pain.
I think you’ve got an excellent idea there, and I bet it will be a huge success. I wish you weren’t so far away from me! I’d ask if I could bring my horse and I’d be on my way!
October 26th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Sure, I’d update the bathrooms, install newer industrial appliances…but what it really needs is a bunch of wooden rocking chairs along that great porch!
Seriously, I went on a retreat to a place that was a lot like your lodge, and the thing I most remember was the rocking chairs, a cup of coffee, and a good book.
If you DO remodel, I’ll volunteer my family as guinea pigs to come and test your lodge, just to be sure it’s up to snuff.
I have two punks of my own, so we’d be a great test family.
Heck, I’ll come and be your “lodge maid/upkeep person/cook” if we could live out in the middle of nowhere like you do! I’m not kidding!
Blessings,
Dana
October 26th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
You have a wonderful starting point!! The lodge is beautiful and only needs some updating(as you said). I’d definitely keep the lodge/log cabin/country feel. People love it! Especially when most of us are sitting on our retro/urban/modern houses dreaming of a “rustic” vacation which translates: I want to give the impression that I’m “roughing it,” without giving up my vices. But one word of advice here, I’d forgo any t.v. or satellite, but hang on to the internet…people might go crazy! The bathrooms and kitchen look like the big projects and everything else is just surface/decoration issues.
I LOVE that table!! Where can I get one?! I’ve been looking for one like that am resigned to making it myself, every table I look at seats up to 8. I guess nobody has big dinner parties anymore.
Keep us abreast of any future plans…I’d love to visit!!
October 26th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Hi Ree! Great idea. And your “dingy” (?!) lodge is nicer than my house, by a mile. For me, I wouldn’t need a thing changed.
I had read only a handful of the comments, but I agree wholeheartedly with the first commenter, about strong hot water. And the comment about the unobtrusive porch rail is excellent.
For me though, I’m a moth, and my moods are totally affected by light. If you update nothing else, I’d pay attention to good lighting — whether that’s replacing fixtures and lamps, adding skylights/tubes, or updating some window treatments to allow for good natural light.
Best of luck with this!
Laurie
October 26th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
All I need is a comfy clean bed, hot shower, and good food. If the beds have down comforters and pillows and the bathrooms have their own robes, all the better. Satellite TV wouldn’t hurt either:)
As far as decor goes, if you are ever in the Tulsa area, you should check out a place called “Five Oaks” in Jenks. It’s a beautiful log cabin in the woods and on a lake. We have been there twice for a Land Rover off road event and once for a wedding. It’s rustic but beautiful.
I found the link if you are interested.
http://www.fiveoakslodge.com/
October 26th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
It’s nicer than my house as it is.LOL
Actually I would look into what other Bed and breakfasts do,it sounds a bit like one.For those interested in the ranching would be liek a dude ranch. The chance to come and learn photography while relaxing and letting a good cook do all the meal prep sounds like heaven to me.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Comfy bed. Clean rooms. Fireplace. Nice shower. Workable kitchen. That’s all I’d need/want/expect. I think it’s a great place already!! (That huge table is excellent!)
October 26th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Oh Ree….I hope you’re not setting us all up! That would just NOT be right to get all of our hopes up and not end up doing it. When can I sign up??? I can’t wait for me and my girlfriends to come spend some time (without the lil’ ones) cooking, learning about photography, gathering tips on how to properly castrate a calf and getting to know you (even better!) I TOTALLY feel like I know you already, but it would be SO awesome to come get a good taste of life on a ranch!
I think the lodge is just perfect the way it is. Hot water would be nice. A nice size porch is a must but who cares if the bathrooms are a bit outdated. It’s a ranch forevermore! It looks so awesome…when can I come?
October 26th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
Dude, this is a Lodge, on a Ranch. Keep it rustic, not too fancy schmancy. Little things to make it nice, but not too nice. It looks awesome. I want to come over!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
I am the type who could sleep on a rock and be happy…and a ranch is always a happy place (I’ve slept in a three-sided sheepherder’s cabin in backwoods Australia, with nothing but candles and an open shower so you can look into the woods while you’re bathing. It was lovely…if spider-filled). That said, I would say that when it comes to comfort, fixing leaks is always a priority for me, and getting the electric up to code. I agree that a bunkroom for kids is a good idea - I’ve seen some terrific (and very swanky) bunkrooms while living in Vail. It’s a good idea if there are to be lots of families. On the whole, though, I think that a ranch experience is more about the outdoors than the indoors, and I personally wouldn’t be looking for a lot of amenities. I think just a comfortable bed, because you’re likely to be tuckered at the end of the day (and if you’re not, then you’re doing it wrong!)and a shower that stays hot. Period.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
Stick to what you like doing cooking photography etc. Keep it simple update bathrooms & kitchen leave the old lodge feel outdoor cooking would be great
October 26th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Sign me up! I’d love to have a Ranch Vacation. Let me know when I should start saving my pennies!
Yes, internet, comfy beds and furniture, good food and plumbing are all things I’d love to have on vacation for sure. As for spa treatments, I don’t even do that at home so I wouldn’t need it.
I know some people without kids don’t like to be around them so maybe separate stuff for families and/or kid-less adults.
Oh and I definitely think you should have a bathroom per room, some people get the heebie jeebies sharing a bath with people they don’t know.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Count me in the camp that says KEEP IT ‘PW’ REAL. and casual.
Why imitate the faux rustic lodgings that now dot the country– you’ve got the REAL thing! (or is it thang?) Let us see the lodge just as the family would furnish and use it, funk and all. It would be a perfect place to showcase the family history and ranching heritage that you’ve unearthed.
Things I think the lodge could do without:
Electronic entertainment devices in common rooms
Huge sumptuous en-suite bathrooms with monogrammed bathrobes
Logo’d souvenirs items
‘Themed’ bedrooms
mints on bedpillows
Necessities (for me) would be:
An ecclectic range of firm but well-padded lounging furniture
Good, warm task lighting for reading or handwork
Cool tile floors–your summers are hot, no?– with area rugs and ceiling fans with remotes. And shade trees
A kitchen with a good work triangle and several work stations*
Home-style bed linens in 100% cotton
Plenty of comfy porch chairs of any style
*Universal Design concept for acessibility: ramp, wide doorways, even floor surfaces. (link:http://recenter.tamu.edu/TGrande/vol14-1/1807.html
Nicities would be:
A firepit to gather around, weather and conditions permitting
A henhouse and chicken yard so we could feed the chicks and gather FRESH eggs, not to mention the entertainment value of chickens
A tree swing if a tree is nearby
A BBQ pit to cook dinner if the weather permits
Resident cats for those in feline withdrawal >^..^
October 26th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
I would say plenty of hot water, good water pressure, and very clean would be my priorities.
Because it’s a remote retreat idea, I would hope to get away from the Internet, TVs, computers… but would like a phone I could use to call my family, or for them to contact me in case some bizarre emergency were to arise.
And, maybe it’s just me, but perhaps the creepy deer heads could be removed. They remind me of a place I used to have to visit as a child, which gave me the permanent heebie-jeebies where decapitated, stuffed animal heads are concerned.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
I’d come if Tim gave massages.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
I don’t know if I messed up on my first entry - if I did please disregard.
As I was saying….I would love to go to your place in the country for relaxing on the covered front porch - watching the sky and the clouds, watching the horses and watching/listening to the cows, breathing the fresh air.
Condos that we rent on the beach have equipped kitchens - that would be nice, but it would also be fun to have access to local food or someone to cook, if no one wanted to cook. I don’t know if this is going to be a B&B with several families accomodated at one time, which you would need a cook, or you would rent out the lodge to a family or several families at a time where they did their own cooking. So, a well-equipped kitchen would be great. We always pay a cleaning fee for someone to clean after we leave. But we empty the refrigerator, load the dishwasher and pile the dirty towels for the cleaning people to pick up. I love the idea of having a washer/dryer there to clean things as they are used - especially if there was “ranch stuff” going on that we were participating in. I also love a good shower, comfortable bed, because you will sleep well there, a comfy living room where you can curl up in the evening if you’ve come in from the porch, and I do like the idea of having televisions available, because I like watching a little tv at the end of the night, and some days/nights the weather might not be the best, and a movie or tv program might be nice for a change of pace. Your cooking classes and photography classes would be very popular, also.
I would definitely come if you offered this.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
well! was I too wordy? the program left off my bit about wanting to see your ranch life as YOU see, and understand the scafifices that families like yours make to put food on my table.
Assuming the punks sre on board with sharing their lfe and ranch too? Good luck on your venture!
October 26th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Two things… Internet connection to send pictures back home every day and COFFEE!!
Other than that I love it like it is….
PS, I would fix the leak… water dripping on my head at night would not be the best thing in the world….
October 26th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
What things would be essential? Internet access? Satellite TV? Spa treatments? Seven-course meals? Jacuzzi? Get rid of all of this. Give me the simple life, bare bone simple. When can I signup?
October 26th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
I’m easy. A flushing toilet and a tall shower head. And some king size beds.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
Just nevermind fixing it up. I want to pack up my family and come live there. My 6 kids and I would fill it up well. And I’ve already told you how much I want to live there anyway, where you can see the sky touch the ground.
And hey. My dh is a vet. *BIG GRIN*
October 26th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Sign me up! Get me hot water and a comfy bed with a good reading lamp next to it and I’m set. I’ll go like it is. Looks like a great place for my sister and I to go and hide from our respective families and reconnect. By the way I grew up in the country and no summer meal was ever complete without the smell of cow manure wafting in our open windows.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
hi! I think a B&B/ retreat is a wonderful idea! i would go for something thats warm and cozy while still, like so many have posted before me, preserving a “ranch” atmosphere… more of a rustic and down to eart, charming look than a 5 star hotel…. comfy beds, good showers (though i dont think the bathrooms have to be big) and i would do more ranch style food than 7course meals…. definetely redo the deck, definetely lots of lounging potential, maybe some hammocks in the back of the lodge- different outdoor lounging areas… i think TV and internet is sort of not the point of a retreat, but in this day and age i think not having both would cause too many complaints… cooking classes by you would be awesome, as would photography courses and tours of the ranch…. i dont think you should offer spa treatments, rather focus on the “ranch” theme….
amazing idea! go for it!
October 26th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
I would go for…
Simple.
Rustic.
Real.
Stone, wood, metal, wool, cotton.
Not luxurious, but very clean, comfy and bright. Nothing damp or musty. Nothing slippery.
Fresh local wildflowers.
Big furnishings to avoid clutter.
Local artists for wall art and pottery. Your own photography. All genorous sized. No knick-kncak look.
Consider adding an herb garden that could aslo be used in the cooking. Consider a larger garden and hosting those types of gatherings too. And lessons in canning.
Consider expanding the outdoor living rooms to include outdoor grilling, cooking and dining.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
Ree, I have to agree DO IT, and then be sure to get the word out so we can book it out years in advance
Dang, I had a long reply with ideas and somehow hit a wrong key and it is GONE. Anyway, I would say Keep it Real, Keep it Homey, Keep it Simple. The beauty of a place like this is in the relationships and memories which are made there.
We go a couple times a year and rent a place not too far from home, and we take family and friends for our little getaway. What are the important elements? People you love; a big porch to sit out on and enjoy the view while you sing, rock, and visit; a big room for gathering with a fire to play cards, visit, have family talent show, play piano, do puzzles, and just soak up the fire and each other’s company; a big servicable kitchen–it doesn’t have to be fancy, but big enough to get in side-by-side and work. You will have some groups that don’t want to prepare their own food, and others like us that will want to spend time in the kitchen together. One of our trips each year is to do a big prime rib supper for 20-30 people. Is it a lot of work, sure, but getting together side by side is such a treat as we each bring favorites to the menu. You need to have bedrooms which are simple and comfortable, you don’t go to a ranch looking for a spa experience, you go to remember that the simple things in life are the most important. Hot showers, you bet that’s a must have
The other thing, and you have that covered, is things to do… we hike in the area where we stay, or play football, or go beachcombing — something that gets the kids out, burns off energy. I’m not a big supporter of TV at such retreats, but would miss my internet access ~ for OUR trips, its all about time together, making memories, savoring the relationships with the people you love.
Good luck and keep us posted!
October 26th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
first of all, wow! i was expecting some rinky dink log cabin….not a freaking mini-palace…your place is incredibly beautiful. if i were going to treat myself to a weekend at the Lodge, hmmm…firstly, i know i would be happy to see the beautiful layout of that place…the space is well layed out and the skylights are nice….i definitely think the lighting should be priority, it looks like you have a lot of opportunity for natural light, stone floored bathrooms with smoked glass shower doors. i’d update the kitchen cabinets in that glass doored variety…the interior design would be deep and hearty and warm, definitely keeping the rustic theme…i love the red in that bedroom (not so much the pattern;)), i love the stone in the kitchen… i adore that long dining table…could you imagine extending that porch and making it into a wraparound verandah of sorts, complete with stained rocking chairs and hanging metal lights for cool nights? gosh, i wish i could sign up for a group retreat now……;)good luck
October 26th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
My two-cents? No TV!
Why on Earth would anyone in their right mind waste their time watching TV or movies, when there is such an amazing environment right outside. With loads of activities to choose from (photography workshops with group feed-back/discussions each evening, ranch activities, horseback riding, cooking demos/lessons, hiking, yoga, reading, or just sitting on the porch in the evening with a glass of wine) who would have time for TV anyhow? Furthermore, if you’ve been active all day, turning in early for a great night’s rest in a comfy bed beats satelite TV by a long shot. Such a retreat should encourage people to be in tune with their surroundings, not in tune with the tube. Also, please encourage water conservation. Hot water and good water pressure are great, but remind people to respect the environment. Perhaps a large hot-tub that guests could share rather than individual deep soaking tubs?
I’d also have to imagine that you must have an amazing opportunity for star-gazing. Most city dwellers have no idea what the night sky should look like. Please take this opportunity to encouage people to star-gaze. If more people became aware of the beauty of the night sky, more people in the ‘burbs might be willing to take a stand and fight the battle against ambient light pollution. It’s the little things that can make a powerful impact (most people are unaware of little things that can be done that have a huge impact - such as illumination that points down instead of up - duh!).
Must have’s would include really good coffee, satisfying but healthy food, a good bed with good sheets (nothing scratchy) and a really good library - of books.
Good luck and happy trails!
October 26th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
I think everyone ahead of me has the best ideas already put out there to you. Good beds are an absolute must. Really good linens and towels and such. Very comfortable sitting rooms and gathering rooms, you need to go for a mix of very touchable textures. Soft and warm, cozy, but keep the rustic, that is the soul of your ranch and if someone doesn’t want that vibe then you don’t want them there.
I love to cook and I like LOTSA room to do it in. I’m always doing more than one thing at a time. If you’re going down the road of holding cooking lessons or group meal prep, then get three good commercial ranges with 8 burners each, and lots of prep area on either side. Maybe you could do a large U-shape, with enough room in the middle for an island. People will have plenty of room to pair up without stepping all over each other.
I don’t think you need Internet access. Satellite TV maybe, for movies and such while in bed…
What would YOU want in a place if you were going to get away from Marlboro Man and the punks for a while but wanted to still do what you love, just in a different environment. I hope you fulfill this dream, because believe me, you will have many takers! Can all of us who love you so much be first on the list of invitees???
October 26th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
What an awesome idea. Whenever we visit our friends’ ranches or B&B retreats (we live in Texas), the things we like best are: pools, lakes, or creeks for swimming, BBQ pits/outdoor chimneys for cooking and roasting marshmallows; comfy couches and good books (we have NEVER watched TV); internet access would be lovely; a working kitchen (appliances have ranged), but must have a working blender (for the obligatory maragrita); and laundry facilities. Rocking chairs, big deck/porch and hammocks. We also like big fridges b/c we like to bring stuff to cook while we’re on the ranch. And decor should be “homey” with a reflection of the place and time. Our friends have land that was either part of or next to the original King Ranch and it is decorated like a Mexican Mission-so awesome, rustic without kitschy. I would sign up to be first on your beautiful grounds.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Do you scrapbook at all? I think a *perfect* addition to the ranch life/ cooking/ photography thing would be for everyone to create a minibook to document/ remember their stay. They could add thier photos later when they get home & print them off.
Or maybe you could ‘pre-print’ (in bulk) photos of the meals to be eaten, photos of your property, photos of the land, so when the guests get there they’ll be able to scrap those photos during their stay. They could make a recipe scrapbook that would include pictures of the “cast of characters” pics of the final meal & the recipe.
I think you are sitting on a huge money maker here, Ree. I can’t wait to see what you do with it.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
No TV, or anything else to take you away from the outdoors. Awesome hearty food, a beautful landscape, a hot shower and a warm bed end of story.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
Not just a shower - older folks will want to soak their ranch challenged bones! Tempurpedic matresses would be lovely. I think internet and TV are essential nowadays but could be communal - ie not necessarily in every room - but that depends on how much luxery you want to provide. I think quiet is a big part of country life - so supporting that with fewer TV’s, but lots of picture books, would be cool. Comfy reading chairs in the rooms with ottomans for your feet! Have guitars sitting around!
October 26th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Funny thing is, I HAVE stayed in a lodge in the middle of nowhere, in Zion National Park, in Utah.
So…important to me - privacy, friendly “staff” (or whoever makes sure we don’t kill ourselves with our adventures!), plentiful, yummy food, heat at night, AC during the day, fluffy blankets (if it’s cold), good pillows, running water, clean (not dingy) bathrooms, internet, good light inside the lodge for late night Uno games (can you tell I’m already gearing up for winter?)
Things that aren’t essential - cable, spa treatments, room service.
Oh yeah - ESSENTIAL - tell us when you open for business! We really need a vacation!
October 26th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
I think the strong pressure hot shower is #1. Full or Queen beds are a must. It’s nice to have stuff like satellite tv, pool table, jacuzzi, etc. - but if I were to come stay there I would be more interested in HORSES & PHOTOGRAPHY. I like the guitar idea…..#435. My husband would be all over that.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
Personally, it looks great as is. Update the bathrooms perhaps, and the kitchen appliances. As mentioned, comfy beds, hot water, that about does it. I like the TV in the living room with movies, but other than that, just time to enjoy the scenery and wander around and relax! No internet, no spa treatments necessary. Let people just get away and enjoy themselves without being tied down to the computer 24/7.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
I think it’s gorgeous. Just update those bathrooms. Maybe a jacuzzi bathtub. No spa treatments. Lots of family fun! : )
October 26th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
A girl I went to High School with turned her family farm into just such a thing…they have weddings, meetings, spa treatment, etc… She’s been in business since 1998 and when she first started out it was more of a ranch based bed & breakfast, wedding site, and did cattle round ups ending with a weiner roast around a bonfire. Now she’s gone more “high class” and more expensive. You can go check it out at circlesranch.com and maybe get some ideas for yourself.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
I only read the first 10 entries, and skimmed the last few…..as an ex-pat of the hospitality industry I think your idea sounds WONDERFUL!!! Good coffee, good food (that’s a given at your place, eh?) nice bathrooms, comfy mattress, fire pit outside to sit around and stare into at night, internet, cell reception. The rest is all fluff.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
I think the above messages sum it up nicely….
If you build it, they will come!
Experiencing ranch life is a necessity. Allow horseback riding, or ATV’s on property (if the ATV’s don’t tear up the land).
Comfortable beds
Lots of books and movies, not satellite t.v. necessary
Hammocks or adirondack chairs on the porch
If it’s buggy in the summer, screen in the porch
Good, strong shower pressure
Nice bedding and linens…the softer the better
Internet connections a must
Good quality kitchen equipment plus commercial-grade appliances
I can’t think of anything else for the time being.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
Personally, I really love it the way it is. It has the rustic charm one would expect when visiting a place like your ranch.
I would change the bathrooms, probably similar in style to what you did in your main home but of course these bathrooms are much smaller so I might try and figure out a way to open them up a bit. Is there closet space in the halls near the bathrooms that could be opened up?
I’d update the kitchen, as you said, with stainless steel appliances, maybe go stainless on all the counters for ease of cleaning, plus it can look really nice and even homey, when done right and the kitchen there, looks like it could really pull it off.
Oh, and on a side note, my husband does this type of work so you know, we’d be all for trading accomodations for some work. Ha ha ha!
I think you’re idea is a great one. We hope to do something similar once we have more land, possibly on the prairies here in Canada. Our goal though is smaller. We’re wanting to do a ‘camp ground’ that is completely geared to families having a great time together. Something that is sorely lacking where ever you go travelling these days. Places that can accomodate families with more then the typical 2 or 3 children, are great.
You should consider having one week a year for just homeschool families. That’d be awesome.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
you don’t have to do a thing. i’m there now. give me the address.
seriously, i’ve been craving just this sort of thing. i even begged a former creative coach to let me spend the day at her horse stable photographing the horses. but to see them in their natural habitat?? like, wow.
i’m so in. i’ll even paint the guest house for you in exchange … ;o)
October 26th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
This sounds like an excellent idea- The Pioneer Woman School of Cuisine, Photography, and Ranch Life!
For me the priority would be:
hot shower
good indoor climate control (AC and heat depending)
space set up for group enjoyment- porch furniture/outdoor seating area…
internet
No TV
Good luck with the project!
October 26th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
The spa treatments and ‘fancy’ stuff wouldn’t be my thing. I would want a nice clean place that is easy for me to keep clean. I am one of those that wants to leave my room cleaner than when I left it. I always make the bed before I leave a hotel room - even if I am checking out that day and know the maid needs to change it - I can’t leave an unmade bed behind and have the maid think I am ‘messy! That would mean good storage in each of the room so I could ‘hide’ my stuff. And cooking/food prep surfaces that are easy to scrub without fear of damage.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
Essential:
Clean bathrooms, comfy beds, a really good, useable kitchen with the basics provided.
Non-essential:
TV or anything that connects you too strongly to the outside world. I mean, come on, you’re not leaving civilization so that you can keep in touch with civilization, right? A way to play movies, but no regular TV or cable.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
A nice, clean,comfy room, with a quality mattress and linens and peace and quiet. Oh, and a good clean bathroom/shower. The surroundings would be intertainment enough, but the added camp fire and cowboy gazing would be worth the extra $.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
Clean.
Lots of hot water.
Good beds.
Big porch with lots of chairs.
Fire pit.
A piano.
Oklahoma coffee table books.
A scrap-type-book with pics and the history of the ranch.
Lots of fridge space.
Washer and dryer.
If you MUST have a TV, HIDE IT!
Porch swing.
Comfy big couches and chairs with good lamps for reading.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
The invite is very attractive. Very attractive. However, sad and lonely guys like me would really be coming to discover someone just like you (or sorta like you). Not finding any more “yews,” we’d probably leave refreshed, or worn out, or both, but deep down inside disappointed to find no more Rees to rope! Still, all in all, very attractive!
October 26th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
All I need is broadband, a shower and coffee. Everything else is optional. I would love to go on a photography expedition with you - I’d even pay you (if you had broadband, a shower and coffee for me). LOL!
October 26th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
A nice porch with rockers to read on.
Hot water at all times.
At least queen size bed, or larger.
Private bath with basics - shower, toilet, sink. And towels.
Laundry room.
Privacy from other lodge visitors if you’re a hermit.
Maybe a library with a fireplace that only us hermits know about.
A separate fridge for Ree’s leftovers, first come first serve.
Sorry, no dead animal heads. And certainly not in dining areas.
Free year-round accommodations for those of us (that would be ME) who will be the maid and housekeeper.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
First, great idea and second, when will you have the time?? I was thinking, four kids, Marlboro Man and a ranch to look after. But you are an extreme woman and I wish I had half of your energy. As I have grown up on a ranch in Alberta Canada we had lots of opportunity to host hunters from all over. One thing they always came back for was the down home cooking, and no expectations of anything. The old saying, ” you get what you pay for” and my favorite “make small promises and delivery big” Yes you have some fixing to do, but you pretty much covered it. Right now the big thing in retreats is Scrapbooking. These woman will pay anything to have their privacy and the opportunity to do as they please.
So, I say great idea, and when you have a cooking retreat I will be the first to show up,just cause I love to cook.
Best of luck…
October 26th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
My absolute necessities would be… no phone, no computer (except to learn more about Photoshop from you!), no TV, no nothing except wide open spaces, photographic opportunities, cows, horses, cowboys, flowers, sunsets, sunrises, and plenty of dirt!
I get that where I’m from… but it would be nice seeing it from a different part of the country.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
It’s beautiful the way it is Ree.
Maybe just update the bathrooms, kitchen and bedrooms.
I would leave the rest alone. It’s what gives your Ranch character
October 26th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
I am a big fan of your blogs and would be thrilled for a chance to visit your ranch. I think the Lodge is beautiful the way it is so maybe you just need to fix the things that are broken and outdated. If I was to stay on a ranch I would expect it to be rustic and I would not expect internet or fancy TV. The idea is to get away from it all, right? When I stay at a place I just want it to be very clean and bug-free. When I visit places, I don’t spend a lot of time in my hotel room anyway. I love your idea of cooking lessons. I would also love to see how the ranch works (don’t need to see any calf castrations though, thank you), would love to ride horses and take pictures. Photography lessons would be great too. I hope you go ahead with your plans and that I can visit your ranch with my family someday. Great ideas from everyone!
October 26th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
There are so many responses so far, I’m sure you’ve got your list… Comfy Bed, Cozy environment, NO TV, DSL I guess would be nice for those of us who would want to keep up with your blog, and all the rest you’ve mentioned, Cooking, Photography, A list of chores to help out, that is what I would love.
Sign me UP… I’m so there! My hubby and I have always wanted to do the whole ranch vacation, but just haven’t ever found the “right” place. This all sounds so great.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
PW, you may have no social interaction in real life, but in the blogosphere you are apparently a Rock Star. Look at these responses!! I disagree with the TV requirements. A nice DVD library might be nice, a decent book library and some evening activities like campfire (singing), games etc. To me, the ranch experience means unplugging and simplifying. Cellphone reception is necessary, though, to stay connected when necessary. Internet - eh, I can live w/o for a few days.
Necessary? Comfy beds, good sheets, hot showers (private toilets for each room, I have to go during the night). AND - it can’t smell. No allergy pills, no musty, moldy smells. I’m not prissy, but don’t want allergies or a headache to ruin my retreat!
October 26th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
I think you should definitely leave the ranch feel and look but bring it up to date a bit. I agree that each guest room should have it’s own bath, serve meals “family” style at the fabulous table, update the kitchen, new appliances etc, no less than 300 tc sheets, fluffy down mattress pads and comforters.
Definitely tv’s in each room, internet would be necessary if you want to have business clientele, horse back riding, bonfires, anything you do for entertainment would be great.
This is a great idea! Good luck with it. Looks like a lovely place!
October 26th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
Dear Ree,
My family is very large. Every year, starting the day after Christmas we get together and rent a very large house, we stay for an entire week. There are 28 of us total. We drink a lot to help us get through. We live all over the country, this is the one time a year we can get together.
Our favorite things? A very large meeting room, a large kitchen, an entertainment room for children, soft beds and something to do. Very simple.
I can’t wait to see your final brochures, we are always looking for somewhere new to go! GOOD LUCK!
October 26th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
oh and wireless access would be a must for us!
October 26th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
This is what I do;). And I love it. And I have no trouble choosing colour schemes that work with the feel of a home. If you want some help, Ree - you know how to find me. Having been in the midst of remodelling our own house (which lies in the English Countryside; we’re in a very old Farmhouse, surrounded by farms…) AND being from Texas, I could definitely give you some funky/fun/amazing tips to bring this puppy up to date - in keeping with the ranchy-feel.
Lemme know if you want to see some photos;).
October 26th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Hmm, maybe put up some bookshelves in the living room with some entertaining reading material? And I would definately put in a hot tub, like one of those cool wooden ones that is heated by a stove. And a sauna!
I would totally go up there for the cooking lessons, and my hubby would love to do ranch things.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Hi–
I don’t have time to read all the comments, but these are my first thoughts…a tankless water heater to accommodate many people, large outdoor porch, nice little garden retreat-y area, no tv is fine, fast internet maybe. Ooh–a hot tub, a wooden one, just for soaking under the vast OK sky.
I love to read/see/experience the history of any place I go, so maybe that could be worked in somehow–old (family?) pictures with stories/captions on the walls, books about the place and area.
I think it’d be fun just to experience ranch life as a cowgirl. Get my muscles all sore, squint into the sun, get accustomed to the smell of cow poop, moo at the cows, wonder if I could go swimming in your pond. Sort of like that.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Commenters want to book a reservation now which is a testament to Ree, her family, her ranch life, and her beautiful State. But time for a reality check. Hey, I’d love to hang out with you and your family at the ranch for a few days but have you really considered what opening the lodge up to paying customers would entail?
How does Pesky Brother in Law Tim, Missy and their two children feel about this? What about the ranch hands, Cute Josh and Cowboy Tim? This would affect their lives too.
Using the lodge as a retreat would be one way of preserving it but at what cost to the family and the ranch? I suspect MM is a cautious business man and would not jump into some thing unprepared. I just see this idea as needing a lot of fleshing out yet.
Now I’ll go hide as posters chide me for my comments.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
A totally comfy bed with awesome bedding. Great food, campfires, opportunity to ride.
I tend to agree with the person who said just update the bathrooms and kitchen (and falling down stuff). Preserve the charm. Own bathroom would be nice but not necessary.
NO TV’s, no internet access.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
As for me, I love the lodge just the way it is. Having said that LASHINGS of hot water would be a definate bonus!
This year our family holidays consisted of camping out in some of the worst weather conditions to hit the British Isles in over 150 years. When the storms weren’t beating our tent the mosquito’s were beating it to get in!
We still had a great time and some fantastic memories to tell the grandchildren about, in another 20 or so years that is! I took some lovely photo’s too, which I intend to use on a range of greeting cards I am working on at the moment!
Thanks for showing us round what looks like a little bit of heaven, all the advantages of camping out in the wild with the luxuries of a pretty good hotel!
Good luck with your venture; I’m sure I speak for everyone of your four hundred or so commentators when I say “I can’t wait to see what you decide upon in the end!”
October 26th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Expect:
hot shower with great water pressure
quality soap, shampoo & conditioner
comfy bed with extra blankets
internet access
“home cooked” meals
REALLY good coffee
clean interior
Bonuses:
photography expeditions
working ranching activities
No Expectations:
cell phone service
TV
spa-like amenities
October 26th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
OK- I’m from Alaska, so I know RUSTIC. I agree with most here that it just needs to be comfy and homey, not spa-like or too sophisticated. The living room and dining area already looks great. But since it WOULD be vacation for folks, here’s what I think…
GO FOR IT:
Update bathrooms (just keep it neutral, clean, & simple)
Update kitchen appliances (geared for cooking classes)
Water pressure and hot water (no sulfur smelling hard H20, too)
Soft bedding and towels (don’t break the bank, though)
Home-cooked comfort food
Internet access in the common area
An outdoor hot tub would be reeeeeaaaally cool, but not a must.
Cieling fans for summer (a must for old folks and Alaskans)
Let guests sleep in- especially mothers of young kids (sorry, MM)
NOT NEEDED:
Wi-Fi, satellite t.v., internet in every room
Fancy spa treatments
7 course meals/ gourmet food
Fancy chocolate, shampoos, stationary, etc.
PLEASE DON’T GO THERE:
Ethel Mermon karaoke night
Laundry lessons 101
Calf nut/pig trotter appetizers (OK, maybe for the brave)
Anything involving poop. (From cows or otherwise)
AN ABSOLUTE MUST:
No tarantulas! (I don’t think I could come for this reason alone. Scared.)
Drool buckets for all the women who have read your blog about MM and his Prince Charming-ness.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Ree — Love your blog and would LOVE to visit The Lodge. I just wanted to provide a slightly different perspective. The last ranch I visited was this one: http://www.bearbasinranch.com/ (the outfitters camp didn’t exist when I was there, just the bunkhouse). This ranch was PURE rusticity (is this a word?) with outhouses and a solar heated shower…but they offered great horsebackriding, mountain biking, hiking, etc. etc. Very very rustic ranch experience from the lodging to the food. I had a blast…yes, I would have prefered some plumbing and a more private, warmer, water-pressured shower, but it was a great stay. So, you could really go either way with your lodge — it’s adorable and has great views etc. Obviously, with internet and cell access and satellite TV, it’s a very different experience meant for different types of people. So, I don’t know that you’d have to go total “5 star hotel in a ranch setting” but a little sprucing of the bathrooms etc. would be enough for a person seeking a little R&R and some ranchy adventure like me!
October 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Ree,
First of all, what an awesome place. My humble opinion is to keep the cozy lodge “cozy” but updated. Not too modern. Keep it country, cozy, ranch-y (gotta be careful with that word). Use inspiration from the HGTV dream homes that are cabin/lodge themed. They were fresh, up-to-date, but comfortable and cozy. This is the Pioneer Woman’s place, so just as we visitors feel when we “step into your blog” we feel at home. Same goes for the Lodge! Definitely keep wood everywhere. You just need to update the kitchen appliances, bathrooms, and window treatments, and bedding. Not sure how far you want to go with the place, but that’s a few things I would do. Definitely after repairing the back porch, a nice row of rocking chairs would be nice.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Ree,
At our farm we had trips and little getaways for city folk. What they want is to feel like they are part of something. Leave all the fancy high tech stuff where it is. If you do something high tech, let it be high speed internet, BUT nothing else. You want them come away feeling like they were part of your family and all that other stuff is a distraction. How do people really feel when they connect with a different lifestyle? This is were they are coming to get away-not keep up the pace. The only reason that I say high speed is if you have conference there! Don’t loose the ranching lifestyle–that is what attracted them to coming! Just a few thoughts of what we experienced. PS your blog rocks! Keep it up!
October 26th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Ree - This is my first response ever to a post - I love your site but I’m just a professional lurker! However - I’m ecstatic about this idea. I agree with many of the comments - I haven’t read them all yet - but this reminds me of a place in Gila Hot Springs, New Mexico. Our family rented the entire renovated school house/hunting lodge for a reunion. It was a B&B and the hosts made great breakfasts, and offered sack lunches for another reasonable price, and then worked with our families many and varied food needs (vegetarian, diabetic, allergies, and then plain old dislikes) and came up with a couple of evening meals, also for a price. We cooked many of the other meals, they also allowed us to bake so we could have treats, etc., and then they left us completely to ourselves. We made our own day trips and plans, and then there was the natural hot springs ‘hot tub’ they had made into a three part trickle down VERY HOT, then hot, then very warm ’spa’— if any one wanted to partake. It was AWESOME.
I think it would be perfect for the horseshoes, tag, races, ball games, board games, card games etc etc etc we all love. See - you are already “Fully Committed” with all of your fans out here! I heart Ree and all her family.
Now - My thought is - your family will want to have some down time from everyone - so some of the time - you could just rent it out for family reunions or get-togethers (Quilters, scrap bookers, etc). My family needs a place every two years — we are sort of Kansas based, and there are presently about 85 kids, grandkids, and great-grandkids. So, we would need a a place for erecting tents and/or parking an RV for overflow sleepers. I also think a TV in the room and not in the main space so everyone does not have to be subjected to TV unless they want. (All you have to do if you don’t want it in your room - is - don’t turn it on in your room!
This is long but very heart felt - I want to reserve it the first weekend of August 2010.
I also have to agree with ‘ME’ post #465, that this is a very ambitious full time job you would be taking on and yes - the entire family would need to be fully on board with it. Hard work, a ‘restaurant’ and hotel - even when it is called a B&B. Good luck whichever way it falls.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
A quick list for Ree:
1. Boring, yes - but take care of that porch and the rain damage first. If the rain damage has reached the living area, then there’s probably a real mess in the roof / attic.
2. If you’re going to replace the roof (see item 1 above) I’d urge you to consider putting a solar array up there, and an inverter if you’re on the grid. It would save you headaches and power bills, and if no one is there during the week then it’s just going to sit there and run your meter backwards during the day. That’s a big ol’ roof, and from the shadows it looks like the building runs north-south, which means you’d get sun exposure on one side in the morning, and the other side in the afternoon.
3. Think about a tankless water heater. It’ll give you unlimited hot water (which seems to be a big priority around here!) and you won’t have to worry about turning the water heater off when your guests go away. You’ll save a lot of electricity or gas or whatever you’ve got out there. Some models allow you to adjust the pressure. You’ll also save water.
4. Definitely update the appliances in the kitchen, but I love the overall rustic look, especially the stone in the island. If you’re going to have amateurs cooking up your hotwings, though - put at least a 1200 cfm exhaust fan in the hood over the stove. Looks like the current hood can handle it, and if you’re replacing the roof you can put the motor up in the attic to cut down on noise. Amateurs burn stuff, people on vacation get adventurous and drunk when they’re cooking, and you don’t want greasy smoke on those nice wood walls.
5. Sticking with the kitchen for a minute: Get rid of those two feeble rangetops and drop a 48-inch stove in there. The current arrangement allows for 2 stove jockeys; if you get, say, a Viking (American-made in Greenwood, MS) with 4 burners, a griddle, a grill, and another 4 burners (left-to-right) three can work comfortably side-by-side. I can’t tell if your current hood is 42 or 48 inches. If you get a 48-incher your guests can make a full batch of your cinnamon rolls AND the chocolate cake AND dinner IN ONE GO.
6. Hmm. Better make that two dishwashers. Nothin’ fancy. Maytag or GE Monogram. Betcha you can get’em at Penny’s.
7. When I go to cow country (and I do), I’m not looking for million-thread-count sheets and Fresh sugar scrub waiting for me in the bathroom. Decent cotton sheets. Down comforters. Ceiling fans in each bedroom. Decent cotton towels. Decent mattresses and boxsprings. Maybe a really squishy mattress in some rooms and firmer mattresses in other rooms so that people can jump on the beds when they arrive and then decide where they want to sleep. Same deal with the pillows. Don’t get 12 of the exact same pillow. Get a variety. But that’s way down the line, after the roof and the porch and the stove.
Love your work - keep it up!
October 26th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
I totally agree with Sarah W and amyinbc. Don’t add fluff - folks who come are comin’ for the breathing space. Let ‘em breathe. Great (secure) porches with rockers; update the kitchen and baths, but keep them rustic, simple and natural.
NO TV. Give their brains a rest and let them read instead. Provide chess and checkers and Scrabble. Good showers, excellent towels, great cowboy coffee, wireless access, and “fix what’s broke.” Folks who will come to the Lodge aren’t coming to hang out indoors. They’re coming because they want - need - crave a few precious hours of just breathing in and breathing out. Country entertainment. Nothing fancy, but everything done well, with the same approach you’ve given life. The special “schools” are a great idea… you find such wonderful photographic material there, it would help folks hone that skill. A watercolor workshop; the riding; even a guest wrangler week/end.
I think it’s a wonderful idea, and if you pencil it out and it works, I think your readers are all going to be fighting for a reservation. That being said, I would be extremely careful with it - and make sure you run it, and it doesn’t run you. Limit its availability. Decide now exactly what you want it used for and stick to that with ferocity. We have a small place (compared to yours!!) in NE CO, and it’s always amazing to watch folks just begin to unwind as they breathe in the air and become aware of the immense quiet. Best medicine in the world. But don’t put yourself in a situation to burn out having to deal with an elephant.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
I’d come in a heartbeat JUST AS IT IS!!! It looks like Heaven..and imagining that vacation..with my hubby and two boys…is setting my heart a flutter. (I’m already imagining the view of the stars there must be there!!!)
BUT…If I can pick and choose…just for funsies…I’d like a jacuzzi big enough for 2. A comfy bed and internet access (because yes, I AM addicted and need to check my e-mail and blogs on a regular basis.)
October 26th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
What a great idea! I would love to visit. A great bed/bedding, good hot coffee and a nice shower are a must. Something extra (that I think would be cool) would be an outdoor kitchen for cook outs and gatherings. Fix that porch girl and they will come!!
Good Luck
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October 26th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
I totally agree with Sarah W and amyinbc. Don’t add fluff - folks who come are comin’ for the breathing space. Let ‘em breathe. Great (secure) porches with rockers; update the kitchen and baths, but keep them rustic, simple and natural. Nothing fancy, but everything done well, with the same approach you’ve given life.
NO TV. Give their brains a rest and let them read instead. Give them quiet activities for after dark. Provide chess and checkers and Scrabble and Louis L’Amour. Good showers, excellent towels, great cowboy coffee, wireless access, and “fix what’s broke.” Folks who will come to the Lodge aren’t coming to hang out indoors. They’re coming because they want - need - crave - a few precious hours of just breathing in and breathing out.
They ought to have the opportunity to be exposed to the ranching experience. They need to see what kind of activity makes all of that beauty possible. I don’t have a problem with calf nuts - but it might be a little too much of a shock for some! Provide horseshoes and other “country” entertainment activities.
The special “schools” are a great idea… you find such wonderful photographic material there, it would help folks hone that skill. A watercolor workshop; the riding; even a guest wrangler week/end. Snowshoeing? Cross-country skiing? Don’t know if you get enough snow for that.
I think it’s a wonderful idea, and if you pencil it out and it works, I think your readers are all going to be fighting for a reservation. That being said, I would be extremely careful with it - and make sure you run it, and it doesn’t run you. Limit its availability. Decide now exactly what you want it used for and stick to that with ferocity. We have a small place (WAY small compared to yours!!) in NE CO, and it’s always amazing to watch folks just begin to unwind as they breathe in the air and become aware of the immense quiet. Best medicine in the world. But don’t put yourself in a situation to burn out having to deal with an elephant. We all love you, just the life you’re living right now!
October 26th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
First of all, that is gorgeous, just gorgeous. This is the most tempted I’ve felt for taking a vacation since my son was born (and that’s saying a lot).
I care the most about clean bathrooms. Old tubs/showers give me the skin crawlers. (By the way, those two bathrooms look almost exactly the same, I kept looking from picture to picture trying to figure out if they were the same one or not).
So, new showers would be great.
Since I have a baby, I’d love a crib or porta-crib in a separate room for him to sleep in. And a booster seat/high chair would be nice as well.
I’m sure my husband (and, I admit, me) would want internet access.
Other than that, as long as things were clean (which they look like they are from the pictures), we’d have a blast!
Oh, and since we’re Mormons, we wouldn’t need the coffee, but thanks for offering.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Ree, That sounds like something I have wanted to do for a long time!! In that setting I wouldn’t expect luxury but clean bathroom & nice bedding goes a long way no matter where you are. Hmmm wi-fi..I actually have mixed feelings but it is “almost” a necessity anymore. Not having it would not stop me from coming!! When can we get this show on the road. There is a group of about 6-8 of us that have been friends since grade school (now in our 50’s) that occastionally travel together..we’d come!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
I’m there. I’ll send you my deposit check today! Make it fairly expensive. Don’t undersell it. I did maketing and sales for an investment company who owned a chain of small hotels. Write me anytime about booking, cancellation policies, marketing, etc.
The Lodge looks great. I wouldn’t do too much in the beginning. (I’m a very low overhead person) I’d do what you have to do to make it workable, nice, clean. Then use the money you make to reinvest in the property. Update the kitchen, bathrooms and repair water damage and if you wanted to go “crazy” set up the meeting room as a classroom. People could bring their laptops and you could give some beginning Photoshop classes! Take photos in the day and come back and edit at night!
Remember, this isn’t just so people can come and use your land. This is to MAKE MONEY! Well, at least it shouldn’t cost you money. it won’t make you lottery rich but some of the suggestions here, while great, aren’t very reasonable from a business standpoint.
Looks like you could average up to 14 to 16 people at a time MAXIMUM. I don’t think you’d want more. Too much wear and tear on the house, property, everything! There are places for those types of events but this isn’t one of them. That said I don’t know if you’d want people who set up tents and drive in RV’s …. um…well, I’m not sure but I don’t quite think that’s the direction you want to go….. the damage to the land - 100 people going potty for a week, well, you get the picture. And if you decide to go in that direction just make sure you charge enough to redo the property when your done.
I agree with NO TV. Ridiculous idea! No, no, no to TV. PLEASE, no TV. If you want TV, stay home or go to a Best Western!
You could even give cooking lessons! I’d be interested in bringing the family for a “ranch” weekend (four of us, kids are 13 and 10) and I’d also love to come for a photography retreat and even a cooking retreat (if it was for beginners).
Also, from being in the business and consulting to women and start up businesses for over 10 years, people mean well and I know would love to come but for all who say they will, only half or less can when it comes to paying. They will complain it’s too expensive (which it should be) and you will not be able to please everyone. You can’t please all the people all the time. People will complain. People will want things their way. People will say you ruined their vacation. Not many people, but there will be some. Most will be thrilled and happy and have the time of their lives, but there will be “those” few…there always are…
Ground transporation would be an issue so you need to figure that out. I don’t know what the closet airport is to you or how far you are from the airport but it’s a consideration.
How to get people to and from.
Insurance. Lots of insurance. And, liability forms. Lots of liability forms.
We’d be interested in coming next summer (we’ve been looking for exactly this type of place) and depending on where you are, we would like to drive. We’d like to see a working ranch, take walks, I want to take photos, read, bonfires, eat, laugh, talk, meet people, see animals … my husband is a professional magician (sleight of hand artist) and I did stand up comedy so we are pretty self entertaining. We’ve stayed at family “camps” before and they were fun. They had talent nights, storytelling, cooking contests, etc.
NO TV. If people are bored they can play a game with their kids. Or, prepare yourself here, TALK TO THEM! Yep. It’s a strange idea but one whose time has come! If they really can’t stand to interact with each other, they can bring their own laptop and a DVD. We’ve spent 4 to 6 weeks at a time on vacation on a boat or in a rural area of Jamaica in a rented house with no TV. Miraculously, everyone survived. Same thing with business retreats. They don’t want people in their rooms watching TV. Defeats the purpose.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pm
We once spent three days at a Lodge in Denali Park in Alaska - the bedrooms were small, but rustic, and each had its own bathroom - try for that if you can arrange the plumbing. I would rather have a small room and my our own bathroom than a large bedroom and shared bathroom. Common lounge area, meals eaten together with an emphasis on meeting other guests. They had some evening programs and organized activities of varying difficulty levels for different ages and abilities. Food was wonderful - home cooked by a student team there for the summer, as much as possible using ingredients grown right there.
Maybe if you can make this economically viable you can completely hand it over to somebody else to run for you, so you can keep your life!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Ree, I am about to go take a shower and hit the sack with my kids and cuddle up and watch some TV! (My husband is working late.) And I just wanted to say that this has been bugging me all day.
I gave you some suggestions, but now I’m going to make my last one, one that a lot of people probably won’t like, but here goes, anyway: I don’t think you should do this!
What if you dump $$$$$$ into this project and then you are obliged to make it a business for years and years just to pay it off? I have been reading your blog for awhile and maybe you are the type of person who’d like all these strangers trapsing all over your land, and maybe you’re not. I think it would be fun for about 2 months and then catering to the needs of a bunch of crabby scrapbookers or weird old guys who want to soak in the hot tub naked or guests who clog your drains with body hair or WHATEVER would get mighty old. And don’t forget you’d be exposing your kids to all this, too. I know they’re little enough you can keep an eye on them now, but within a few years they’ll be old enough to have the run of the ranch unsupervised… and do you really want a lot of strangers (armed with cameras, no less) sharing the space with your gorgeous daughters? And sons? Hey, I’m not trying to be scary, but those are real concerns.
As a stay-at-home mom I SYMPATHIZE with your lonliness and boredom. I love what I do for my kids, with my kids… but the need for adult companionship is at times pretty acute. I say… fix up that lodge minimally (new porch, remodelled baths, and fix the leaks) and just invite friends and family out there a lot more, for prolonged stays.
*waiting for hellfire from other fans to come crashing down on me*
October 26th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Wow - lots of great ideas! I’ve so enjoyed discovering your blog, Ree…and it’s clear you have a large, devoted fan base. As has been mentioned, you will be booked for a loooong time to come just the folks who stop by and chat on here.
Since you asked….
I love it the way it is, with some updating as noted above (porch, leaks, kitchen appliances, etc.).
As for amenities…I’ve stayed in a couple of mid-priced motel/hotels in the last year or so that have had beds and bed linens so comfortable that I wanted to sink in and never get up. Puffy pillows, soft sheets, duvets with silky covers (or quilts, quilts would be good)…ah…I feel relaxed just thinking about them! Perfect after a long day of ridin’ the range and ropin’ the calves.
Bathrooms could use updating - I kept seeing “zen simple” in terms of tiled walls, shower, flooring, etc. Tie that in with the rustic, “mid-century modern”, ranch feel the place already has. No need to go all out - use the baths as a backdrop for your photos. Simple fixtures, sturdy plumbing, etc. Make them easy to clean and very basic. Hot water on demand instead of needing to heat a big tank all day long. Fluffy towels to match those fab beds
Internet would be good for the photo sessions (uploadin’ and all) and blogging/writing, but no TV (or radios) needed. The pictures of the ranch *shout* silence, wind, wide-open spaces, calm. No TV or music needed.
People can pick up a book if it rains all day! Every restaurant in America seems to have sprouted televisions in the last few years - it’s as if we are all afraid to be alone with our own thoughts.
I have kids - I don’t want to worry about what’s being watched on a common room TV/DVD. Aside from that - we reluctantly gave in to the idea of DVD’s on car trips. I hate it. If they come to the ranch, they can darn well live with peace and quiet for a few days!
If you’re offering *ranchin’* visits - 99% of everyone visiting will be waaaay too tired to lift a finger to turn on anything other than the hot water at night!
I also agree with the other posters in terms of thinking through your preferred approach to this idea. You would literally have hundreds of reservations the minute you opened the doors, based on this blog alone!
Do you want weekend guests, week-long guests, low-maintenance retreat guests, high-maintenance corporate guests, B&B style guests, spa-type guests….?
Every week, every other week, once a month, once a year?!?!
Hands-on ranch work for families (a la “City Slickers” - still a really funny movie)? Quilt or cooking retreats? Wedding receptions or family reunions?
Rent only to groups who fill the entire building? Families? Singles? Couples? Any comfort or discomfort with certain lifestyles you would or wouldn’t want your children exposed to? It’s America in the year 2007…there are bi-coastal-nude- entomologists looking for ranching vacations out there, I’m sure.
Do you do lots of the work (leading cooking or photography workshops)? Some of the work (helping with the ranchin’, riding horses)? None of the work (family reunion with their own food and mingling - you just say “hi” as they roll through the ranch gates)?
You need to think about YOUR preferences and what’s best for your family and friends. If you want to teach all of us aspirin’ Pioneer Women how to cook rib-sticking meals for our MM’s over a long weekend - well, that would be great (sign me up!), but a very different workload than hosting a week-long corporate planning retreat with daily linen changes, etc.
As I read over your post - holding a cooking retreat for 10 people is waaaaay different than being the KOA for an 85-person reunion, complete with multiple RV’s!
The easiest would be to just rent the building and provide no services - people bring what they need. But - maybe that’s not enough *lovin’* that you want to provide. And - the work you put into upgrades will need to be recouped over a longer period of time since you should be able to charge more if you provide a greater level of service for guests.
However, the money that you will invest in the remodeling/repairs/upgrades will be made back quickly, I think, just based on the responses you receive here. Start small, experiment, see what works and feels great for all of you.
This could be so much fun for all of you (and us!), or it could turn into a total drag if you do too much, too fast.
I’m looking at the pictures again - what a fab place! But I agree, it needs plenty of “Ree-graphs” in all of the rooms.
And oh yea - sign me up, too!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Gosh, i am not sure what to say after the last post. I guess that is something to think about as well.
I think a comfy bed with nice linens and a good clean bathroom are essential. I like the idea of the photography opportunities with the photoshop techniques. Maybe you could offer a few of these type workshops/retreats throughout the year.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
I didn’t see EJ’s post just before mine (in the time it took to type my answer - sorry for the novel - several more posts appeared!)…but she has some really important considerations for you and your family.
There ARE some weird people out there, and many of them like to take vacations. I think that makes it very important to think this through fully and again, decide what’s best for all of you.
I think small groups, sharing your skills at cooking, writing, photography, etc., would be pretty groovy. I think you’d love it, and so would your guests. But it’s YOUR land, your home, your family. You have the absolute right to invite whoever you do or don’t want to stay with you.
Have fun!
p.s. - NO hot tub, for the exact reasons mentioned above!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
I’m pretty easy when it comes to this sort of thing. A good shower, comfy bed, a good kitchen and a stereo. Maybe a TV with a DVD player for rainy days but really… wouldn’t you want to just spend as much time outside as you could soaking up the fabulousness of everything around you?
October 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
It’s obvious from the replies that you could have the place booked for several months already and it hasn’t even opened yet! The basics are already there. I love the wood everywhere. Can you open up the kitchen any?
New appliances and possibly new layout for the kitchen
New mattresses and linens
New curtains all around (what are those crazy red ones? Whew!)
Re-do the bathrooms. You know you want to, Ree.
Good showers.
Fix the porch. Make it wider. Put furniture out there.
Yes, I’d like internet access. I’d want to tell everyone I was sleeping at Pioneer Woman & Marlboro Man’s lodge.
TV would be fine, too, in case some people would want to watch.
You could blog about this for quite some time to come!
Ree, love your site. I visit it daily. Love love love your photography. You’re my hero, you crazy middle-child nut.
I worry, though, that now everyone will know where you live. Is this what you really want? Gosh, what a great place to stay, though!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Hi Ree,
After reading most of the comments on this, I can see that you can’t do this. Your idea is, “ I have this crazy dream of holding occasional weekend retreats on the ranch where guests would experience a slice of ranch life, cook together in groups, go on photography expeditions, and relax.” The key words here are OCCASIONAL WEEKEND RETREATS. Most of the comments refer to the thinking that they can go there anytime and stay as long as they want to and be served comfort food and catered to. You can’t possibly run a hotel and still have your family life. I can’t imagine how you do, what you do, now as it is. Let’s see, you get up at 4:00 a.m. You feed and dress your family and go out with them to photograph them as they work. At sometime in the day you home school your children, make lunch, dinner, clean house and wash tons of clothes. You read all of your blog comments; read other peoples blogs and comment on them and then go and prepare each day’s blog. You have to get all kids ready for bed and spend some time with MM. There aren’t enough hours in your day as it is to do what you do. Forget this dream of yours unless you want to run yourself completely ragged and have a breakdown. You have enough to do with your family, relatives, holidays, rodeos, trips, etc. Just try to enjoy what you have now without wearing yourself thin. The quality of life you have is wonderful and envied by many. Just enjoy! You have made many friends with your blogs and it’s an amazing life that you have, but you can’t do everything that pops into your pretty little head. I thank you for all the times that you have made me laugh, cry, envision, informed me, taught me and just shared your unique personality with all of us. It’s a pleasure reading your blog daily and I hope that you try to relax on your own front porch and enjoy all that you have.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
WHOA, NELLY, I can’t thank you all enough for your fabulous suggestions, advice, ideas, etc. Incredibly helpful—you’ve all given me/us a lot to think about as we mull over the remodel decision! I think we’ll make a spreadsheet and organize all the ideas so they’ll be easy to reference when we start the planning process.
To clarify, what I had in mind would be group stays or retreats—either corporate groups or groups of families/friends. Certainly not a drop-in hotel arrangement, which could be sticky, and not a campground arrangement, which would definitely be hard on the land. And for those of you who posted concerns, I appreciate them, too—thanks for covering that angle.
At the very least, we’d like to remodel just to get the house in better shape so it’ll be here for a long, long time. But it’s such a special place, we can’t help but explore ways we can share it with others.
And I LOVED the Ethel Merman Karaoke idea! That’ll attract people in droves, I’m sure.
Thank you, thank you, thank you everyone! Your ideas are fantastic.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
Did I miss the fireplace?
October 26th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
I didn’t read all the above posts, but my one input is that if you decide to make it a place for visitors to come and stay and get away from it all you must (must!) have super awsome bathrooms with giant tubs for soaking in!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:17 pm
You would need good working bathrooms, comfortable bedding, good food, no internet or cable or tv other than great classics on dvd for bad weather. It would be a beautiful artists retreat also, without having to cover yourself insurance wise for horseback riding. (very, very costly) It shouldn’t lose the character of being a ranch style house either, thats why people will come in droves, to get away from an urban life and to escape to a ranch life for a short bit.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
i know i’m late to this, but i say new bathrooms, updated kitchen. and honestly? wireless internet. i’m a city girl, and i can handle the silence, as long as i can check the weather in timbuktu.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
There’s no way I’m reading through all 4000 posts…or however many…so I just wanted to say this is an excellent idea. Excellent! This reminds me so much of the huge log home we rented when we stayed in Montana a couple of years ago and I absolutely fell in love with it. I’ve been looking at some ‘women only’ travel brochures and how much fun would it be to open up a brochure one year and see a week long stay at The Pioneer Ranch. I wouldn’t help with the castrating…maybe…but everything else I’d be up for! I have nice at home, I’d want nice and comfortable away as well, but if I’m coming to a ranch I want to FEEEEEEL what ranch life is all about. People, especially women are looking for some excitement in their lives nowadays. Goodluck with this venture, I see it being very successful for you.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Ask and you shall receive
October 26th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
I’d love to spend some time in that lodge! One thing that caught me was the ‘early morning’ comment you made. If I’m on vacation, I don’t do early mornings. Sleeping in is a luxury for me. But I’d love soft sheets and hot showers. Your photography class would be something I’d sign up for, and your cooking classes. I’m not really interested in horseback riding or other ranch activities - but what a lovely view and lovely place you have! Yup, sign me up!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
I thought that Donna Mc’s suggestions were great, but one thing I am not hearing is “add more bathrooms!!!”. I know it is expensive, but if you are going to have as many peolpe as it looks like your lodge could hold, you are going to NEED MORE BATHROOMS. Are yu envisioning renting it to one group at a time or renting each room individually. My husband and I have stayed in a lot of Inn’s and Bed and Breakfast’s, and I always look for private bathrooms. If you are renting out the whole lodge to one group than just adding maybe one more bathroom would be sufficient. Ree, it looks like a wonderful place and I would love to stay there. Thank you for making my stay at home momness a little more entertaing!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
I would love the opportunity to come on such a retreat. Hot showers and internet access are important to me. If I were you, I would concentrate the $$$ on bathrooms and kitchen. Is there a way you could add a third bathroom so you could have one for every two rooms? And, I would replace the porch. I might also paint and consider new floorcoverings in the bedrooms (either new carpet or convert to wood), but I wouldn’t do too much to the bedrooms. They look fine to me.
Look at the bright side: At least you won’t have to LIVE in it while you’re remodeling!
Blessings,
Sherrill
October 26th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
Oh darling. I must tell you, that it looks like a honey of a place that we would love to visit! It is gorgeous, but of course the bathrooms need a little lovin’. The kitchen looks great, so couldn’t you just baseline and replace the appliances only? (I mean, appliances would be a good thing!) Give it a good wash, maybe some paint if you want and Lordy, the porch needs Marlboro Man’s TLC (just because your photo didn’t show it in a particularly good light!) Yes, we all love sticky buns! Yes, photography lessons/tours/tips . . . would be great! Food. Girl, you can obviously cook! Feed them to death! If you don’t have one, put up a porch swing or something like that. Yes, you should probably have some type of TV kind of thing and definitely internet access, but you don’t need to be some upscale hotel. I suppose that you could do some City Slicker’s kind of stuff and let people run after cows! (Or ride, as it were.) Whatever y’all do, it’ll be great! And that’s from one crazy middle child to another!
October 26th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
My biggest need is a comfy bed. Next, a nice, clean roomy bathroom is really nice - not luxurious necessarily, but not cramped either. You might also consider thinking about ADA standards and making a ramp to your cabin as well as one roll-in shower and tall toilet. Many of the baby boomers love to travel and like rustic sites, but never get to do those things because so many people just don’t think about these little barriers to those with limited mobility. Otherwise, I think it is lovely.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
I’m not sure what your idea of a spa treatment is Ree, but my (ex)grandmother in law used to take the kids out (they lived on a small farm - only 30 head) and stomp fresh cow pies between their toes…. So I suppose it’s all in definition
The lodge is beautiful. I agree with most everyone… a hot shower and not just good bedding… but a GOOD MATTRESS… is a MUST MUST MUST. The others? They’re a bonus…
I love your sites…
October 26th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
The wood everywhere looks great!
New appliances in the kitchen. New window treatments in all of the rooms. Get rid of the old carpet and add all wood floors with some area rugs. Sprucing up the bathrooms with new tile showers giving it a spa look; plenty of hot water to help your guests relax; comfy beds with luxe bedding to get a good nights sleep; and good food. Widen the porch and put some outdoor furniture on it so that your guests can enjoy reading a book or such out there. It is beautiful!! You already have the beautiful scenery and I am sure that you will come up with some great ideas for entertaining your guests. You could definitely offer photography and cooking workshops.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
comfy beds, hot showers no tv, no internet. cell service for emergencies only. Good food. Retreats aare so you can relax. If you need internet then stay home. We never take time to enjoy life anymore, and then one day you have no life to enjoy. Ree you live the life many of would love to live.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:20 pm
I’ve done some thinking on this myself since I’ve been considering purchasing an older home for a retreat/event/meeting location.
Here’s what I look for: Clean new bedding…down comforters/300 count sheets, sleep comfort beds would be awesome.
Clean bathrooms with good lighting, if you go high end…go with tile showers/glass doors. The big 17inch tiles are really nice. Commercial kitchens aren’t necessary, but well equipped ones are esp. nice. Cozy room arrangements– of course in all rooms.
Furniture on porch…a porch swing too?
Wood floors too?
I’ll come help you!! Looks like a place I’d love. How fun for you!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
I don’t know if someone else already mentioned it, but I am concerned about many people talking about lots of hot water, jacuzzis, spas and such. I think we should worry about water waste. I know many people is used to just open the faucets and get as much water as they want, but I think in future generations, will they have water to drink?
I hope you don’t take this comment as a negative input, it is just something that concerns me.
The idea is great and with so many opinions I am sure you will get the best of them.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
I’m a ranch owner/farmer, and would love to visit your lodge just the way it is. (well maybe fix the roof…LOL). My wife and I have stayed at several lodge/ranch settings and I have a couple of thoughts about our experiences. Good food has always been important. Doesn’t have to be fancy, just holsom and plentiful. Like the others before me good bathrooms and comfy beds are important. The horse riders without toughend up butts may need a tub to sit in…LOL. One thing we experienced at one place was an outdoor fire pit that seemed to collect people like a magnet in the evenings after dinner. The owners kids played fiddles and performed, getting the people involved…lotta fun. We enjoy meeting all the other people, so tv’s in bed rooms aren’t important. Maybe a big one in a common room during football season would be a plus…LOL. Think about how much work this is going to be, washin, cleanin, cookin.
Love your tales of your ranch life, they hit real close to home sometimes ….LOL.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
Great idea! Internet access is a must, we couldn’t care less about TV, something to plug my music into would be great. Plenty of peace and quiet which you obviously have…to enjoy that porch :), but also give folks the option of “working” the ranch…hauling hay, rounding up the herd, shoveling manure, whatever else there is to do (believe it or not, my kids when they were little thought the shoveling thing at our friends was the coolest thing ever). Super comfy beds with down comforters and great sheets (not satin, please) and big, hot showers…a hot tub where you could sit and enjoy the stars would be heavenly. A desk or writing space in each guest room for laptops and keeping travel journals! And Ree…you need to offer cooking, photography, and photo-editing classes a few times a year, guests could stay in the lodge! I know lots of friends that would love to do those with me! Just simple updating on the lodge, no need for 5-star accomodations! There are lots of “dude ranches” here in Montana where I live that do this sort of thing. Do an internet search and check out their ideas!
October 26th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
I almost forgot….a fire pit to roast marshmallows and tell ghost stories!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
If you really want to offer the Lodge for visitors, it should be wheelchair accessible, with a large roll in shower (call it a spa shower to non wheelchair users).
And, of course, you need rocking chairs on the porch!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
If I’m going to “work” on a ranch all day, I’m going to want a great shower to scrub scrub scrub. I’d like a nice meal and a nice bottle of wine at the end of the day. I’d like a good strong cup of coffee in the morning. Nice mattresses, bedding and pillows are important. My husband and I used to go to this place in Mexico where we stayed in “tentlapas”, semi-permanent tents under a palapa roof. It didn’t even have electricity but we loved it. One very important part of that was an amazing staff. It was clean, pristine, and the staff was beyond friendly and accommodating. Sadly, it has closed. Urban sprawl, even in Mexico. Anyway, you’ll have to keep us posted because if you really do open up The Lodge, I’d LOVE to visit a working ranch!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
What a great idea!
1. GOOD coffee, real half-and-half
2. GOOD linens– not French or anything imported, but 500 thread count or ^
3. GOOD water pressure and hot water
4. Internet access is just a nice touch; not essential, but nice.
I think you can keep the ranchy look it has now, but just update it a bit so it’s liveable.
Good luck! LOVE reading your blog!!! :0)
October 26th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
I am not reading 510 posts! So here is my 2 cents worth. Plenty of bathrooms - or at least bigger bathrooms. Good water pressure. Up to date kitchen appliances. Equipped and stocked kitchen - cooking utensils, etc. pantry, extra fridges to house the food! Roaring fire for cold nights. A wider (covered) porch to sit and visit on. Doubled pane windows to keep the heat out or in - depending on the weather (is it hot where you live? I am from Yuma, AZ - and that is hot). Growing up, we had the menagerie of animals - of course in their pens or corrals - so maybe some chickens - beautiful ones - for fresh eggs each day! This would be a perfect fit for my large family to stay at - I especially LOVE your long dining table. Looking forward to seeing what comes of this project.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
down pillows
comfortable beds with good linens
down comforters
clean bathrooms
books,games,etc
hot tub is good
beautiful sunrises and sunsets
friendly atmosphere
i think this would be a mighty fine place to vacation.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
I LOVE the lodge look! It looks great already, so if you spruce it up a bit, I would say to definitely keep that rustic lodge look.
NEEDS: Good, hot, strong coffee!
Comfortable, firm bed with nice, clean linens ~ does not have to be extravagant.
LIKES: Down comforters, nice views, private porch, “cowboy food” or tex-mex type food, hiking trails.
Would love to stay at your lodge and learn how to take great photos!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:48 pm
Put my wife and I down for a week at the lodge. We’re not all that fussy and don’t care what the bathrooms look like. All we would ask is ample opportunity to burn film. Actually I burn film, my wife has gone digital. Sunrises, sunsets, horses, cattle, lush green fields, barns, we’d love to capture it all with our cameras. Would horseback riding be available? Where do we sign up?
October 26th, 2007 at 11:23 pm
When I think of staying at a lodge I think of: river rock fireplaces, outdoor campfires with s’mores, buffalo plaid bed linens, scrubbed wide plank pine wood floors, beamed ceilings, tiffany glass lamps, bear skin rugs, local artwork, pieced work pillows overstuffing the sofas, freshly squeezed lemonade, a front porch filled with rocking chairs and a porch swing, a screen door that slams just so, an apron sink in the kitchen, a restored claw foot tub, mason jars of wildflowers and the opportunity to see some hunky cowboys. Not necessarily in that order.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
A runway and a helicopter pad. A new porch with some rocking chairs.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:29 pm
I don’t care!!!! I just want to GO!!!!!!!!!
Okay, but maybe a comfortable bed, a tub to soak my toosh after riding horses, and big windows to take in that awesome landscape!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:54 pm
Wow, all the suggestions sound so good! I do like the feel of the lodge as you’ve shown in the pictures…it has a lot going for it.
I’d trust some of your own basic instincts, much as you joke about not having taste (lol). Make sure the place is in good repair.
Off the top of my head, I’d say cleanliness is the most important consideration, and then homeyness. You can maximize on your isolation…for every person who feels they need a spa environment, there are likely many many others who put more of a premium from being able to escape the techological jungle they’re already in. So things such as TVs, phones, etc…well, I’d not make that the focus.
Hot water, yes.
Good mattresses and cotton sheets, yes.
Rocking chairs on the porches, or comfy chairs, yes. Perhaps some nicer folding chairs for large groups who might like to host a particular meeting and would require more seating than a sofa grouping would hold…then they could be stored till needed again.
Would the guest be cooking for themselves, or would someone else? Or a combination of both? Something particular to your ranch would be nice to incorporate. Baskets to gather things from the garden? Is there a particular flower in season? Fresh bouquets in the rooms…or if not flowers, a small vase of a few fresh cut herbs. Not fancy, but specific to your place.
Maybe there is something you love to do, or do really well that you’d like to make a regular feature? A night for outdoor barbeque/grilling of steaks and such? A particular morning for a hearty cowboy breakfast? A day for fresh baked bread to be offered? A signature pitcher of real lemonade with a stir of fresh mint ready for the thirsty? Those cinnamon rolls sound awfully good! Or maybe just nightly bowls of popcorn and some crisp cold apples available for snackers.
Maybe even something old AND new mixed together…a pot of stew or soup or baked beans simmering by fireplace/on woodstove by day (in the colder days) to be served later with hot cornbread?
I agree with many of the other commenters that I’d really really want to be able to ride a horse, and without it being a pony ride type situation where they’re all pretty much plodding along a pre-ordained path nearly nose to tail single file. It’d be fun to have things that folks have forgotten about…like a night where anyone who wants to can make homemade popcorn balls together, or taffy pulls, etc. Having some things around like old games..chinese checkers, american checkers, outdoor horseshoes, a rope swing, a swimming hole, etc..dunno how many of those apply, but that’s what would be fun to me. Horseback riding, picnics, fishing, campfire (and telling scary stories!), etc.
I’d get away from having to be hooked up to cell phones, computers, and such.
Oh, and the rooms need to be insulated enough to be quiet if there is something going on elsewhere. Flimsy walls and hearing conversations of others in the next bedroom over isn’t really privacy.
For folks who don’t want much action, they might be going there just to get away…from everything. Having things available for them, but not required as far as participation, would be really nice. You could have an informal introduction “tour” when they arrive, to show them what’s available, where to find the coffee pot, who they can ask if they need anything…and then just let them be as involved or uninvolved as they want.
You might host weekends, or even weeks, with a theme…a simple theme. Allow writer’s workshops to be held there, retreat groups, family groups (reunions, etc), club meetings, quilters or craft groups that want to get together for a project or to show their treasures and have fun together.
Send everyone off with something small they’ll remember (not like a bad case of poison ivy, though..ha!) maybe a bandana (if that’s not hokey?) or a fresh loaf of bread, or a homemade jam, or such…something small that’s “you”…maybe with a tag or label or small card with your ranch’s name on it, saying thanks for visiting or something…
And you might even have a wall somewhere in the place…I don’t know where, that you’d either snap a picture of guest (who’d like it) and hang their photo…or have something they can sign…a guest book, an out of the way wall, or a blank quilt square on a quilt set aside for that purpose (or on its back side, to be signed with liquid fabric pens)…something that they could see again if they visited again…sort of like you do when you go away to summer camp and then come back again years later to find you carved “I love Jim” in your bunkbed? (maybe that’s a stupid idea..hmmm..I like it, though) Or they can sign a rock and decorate it any way they like, to be left to line a garden path somewhere…dunno, but something that would leave a memento
Mostly, if the place feels warm, welcoming, both inclusive and offering a place for reflection, and is comfortable and clean, it’s PERFECT.
Your blog’s so great, just going with what you already do on the ranch is the best start.
Do folks still do barn dances?
Could there be a movie night in a barn, sitting on bales of hay and having cookout food or bonfire food and watching old westerns on the “barn wall cinema”?
Do you sell products that folks would have the option of buying if they wanted, to take home?
Do you have local folk musicians who’d enjoy performing by campfire or in a barn gathering for a feature evening?
OK…I have more ideas, but I think they’re getting weirder and weirder.
LOVE your blog, and I’ll love seeing what happens and this ferment of blogger ideas stirs in your brain…whatever happens, I know it’ll be FUN
October 27th, 2007 at 12:28 am
A lot of commenters say “spa treatments not necessary,” but i think it would be a nice option for your overworked guests (especially if they spend the day hunched over computers learning to photoshop) to be able to reserve a time for a massage… plus it would give some business to some starving massage therapist in the nearest small town. there are always starving massage therapists nearby. Not like turning the Lodge into a spa, but have a space set aside and a regular local who can come in for folks with achy shoulders.
October 27th, 2007 at 12:53 am
What a brilliant idea, Ree! It really sounds like something that would not only attract a LOT of guests but would also be very fun for everyone (but you would be a busy Ree during guest weekends…). I would just love visiting, experiencing a small part of life on the ranch, watching you in photo-action (and learning from you!), cooking, eating… it sounds almost too good to be true. I’m sure all of your regular blog-readers feel the same way: when are we going?!
Here are my ideas:
I would love having access to a bathtub. Not necessarily a jacuzzi-bubblejet thing but just a nice tub to soak in after a long day of out door activities. I would also appreciate a nice, welcoming bedroom with a comfortable bed and soft pillows. Some scented candles or just tea candles would make me feel both welcomed and at home.
Maybe you could decorate the house with some of your photos? Maybe a big photo of the Ree family could hang in the entrance, saying Welcome! An other idea is to decorate with the wall words that are so popular right now (like from http://www.wisedecor.com/ ).
I think people would like having internet access a lot. Personally, I wouldn’t care too much about TV and dvd-players… but I would love to find a nice, cozy reading corner with some bookcases filled with books.
It would also be fun to maybe read about the history of the ranch (or of other ranches in the area), look at old photos or maps etc.
I would love, love, love to go horseback riding. I really think that you should use the activities that you have access to on the ranch (that most people don’t have access to) to make the stay different and special.
Maybe some photography tips and tricks? Maybe some Photoshop ideas?
And maybe you could even send people home with a framed photo taken by you, either a group shot or an individual portrait. People adore your photographing talent and I’m sure they would pay a little extra to have something like that to remember their stay by.
Good luck with the project! I really look forward to seeing what you’ll do and how it will turn out. I think you have a super good concept and I’m sure a LOT of people would be interested in coming!!
LOVE your blog and everything you do, Ree!!
P.S. Someone suggested setting up a chapel and a cross and providing bible verses for guests to read. I really don’t think this is a good idea. Not everyone is religious (and even if they are - not everyone is a Christian) and speaking for myself, I would find it very odd if there were bible verses on my night stand… If I look for a religious retreat, I would either go somewhere where they offer that OR bring my own bible. Please.
October 27th, 2007 at 12:57 am
Oh, and yes. Access to a washer and a dryer!
October 27th, 2007 at 1:41 am
Oh and Hey - as poster #222 says - let your readers be the first there - we can all be the guinea pigs to see which things work and what else needs fixing and what else we need to buy!? Then on the the high paying other guests ;)I love it. :)Patty from Arizona via Kansas
October 27th, 2007 at 2:12 am
If you go back and re-read what you want the lodge to provide then warm, comfortable bedrooms and up to date bathrooms; a killer shower would do it for me as I’d be kept busy by all the activities and that vista. It would be lovely if the kitchen was remodelled to allow you to give cookery demonstrations and with 6 bedrooms the porch needs to be big enough for 12+ chairs. Love the wooden floors though :o)
October 27th, 2007 at 3:25 am
Um, Ree? Just something to think about… If you were squirting from your armpits nervous about the bus-load of seniors, how would you feel about a Lodge-full of visitors staying for a whole week? Maybe you could volunteer to be tour guide for those summer bus tours in the area you live in just to boost your public speaking confidence a little before you find yourself face to face with your first group on a retreat? I’m sure you would do a FABULOUS job, nervous or not, but just trying to help you out a little so that YOU feel more comfortable hosting your inevitable droves of guests who are dying to meet you in person and have a pioneer experience. And no, I don’t think you should be nervous anyway, because you are very entertaining and “real.”
October 27th, 2007 at 3:57 am
Keep it rustic, a get away, quiet, appreciate the land and surroundings retreat. Maybe a few individual 1 or 2 rm. cabins too.
October 27th, 2007 at 7:15 am
Ree,
I don’t have time to read all these great ideas, but I am afraid for you. Keep your life and sanity the way they are! As much as I want to say sign me up and send me directions, so do many thousands of others. Use it for family and close friends, and let the rest of us just dream of how good it could be.
October 27th, 2007 at 7:27 am
Coffee of the highest degree, a comfy bed in a quiet room, time to take pictures with Pioneer woman and learn how to cook at her side.
Wow, that sounds creepy stalker-ish, but I don’t mean it that way!
October 27th, 2007 at 7:33 am
Ree - Do an endless water heater (propane). That way no one will ever run out of hot water. I agree with one of the million posters above. Claw foot deep soaking tubs. No jacuzzis. Keep it lodgy and cozy. Put me on your mailing list too!!
October 27th, 2007 at 7:46 am
Private jacuzzi, good water pressure for nice showers, a fireplace for chilly evenings. Comfy upholstered chairs and good reading lights. Big towels - bath sheet size, not skimpy hand towels.
And while I would definitely make good use of internet access, I’ve had two R&R/retreat type vacations in the past few years, and I’m grateful I didn’t have the internet access at either. It forced me to enjoy my surroundings, relax, not check on business. So…I would make internet access minimally accessible. And…looking through the other posts briefly, I agree with rockers and good coffee.
October 27th, 2007 at 8:26 am
I think the lodge is beautiful as is. If you want to have a conference center you will need to upgrade the kitchen. Internet Access would be a necessity for me even though I would want to get away from all that on the ranch. I would just echo everything people have said. A nice bathroom with a big tub and a comfy bed would be wonderful.
October 27th, 2007 at 8:31 am
Okay, folks. This is a RANCH here, NOT just a lodge! I think we are missing the whole point here.
We’re not coming to your lodge to stay INDOORS the whole time; we’re here to breathe that sweet air, get dirty riding horses and learning about ranch life and cows, and how to rock in a rocking chair at night!
I’m not coming to your lodge to sit in a restful jaccuzzi. You can forget it. A nice, warm bath and a comfortable bed to sleep in would be enough to release the aches and pains of learning to rope my first calf (tee hee hee…)
As for Satellite TV and Internet Access. . . are you KIDDING ME!? If you want that stuff, then you really WEREN’T interested in ranch life in the FIRST PLACE!! PAHLEEZ!!! Get a grip, and head to the city, where you can just soak all you want.
Now, I’m not opposed to my own washer/dryer, and a really awesome tub/shower situation, and I really think the bathrooms are a good idea to update, but Ree - - for HEAVENS sake - - don’t go diving into a wealth of redecorating and upgrading, only to find out your “ranchers” really didn’t want those things in the FIRST PLACE.
My advice - - upgrade your bathrooms, get you some KILLER mattresses on the beds, and maybe, just maybe haul in a couple of major appliances like washer and dryer situations, and sweep off the welcome mat, and open ‘er up! Then, leave a reeeeeal nice “comment card”, asking your GUESTS what amenities THEY’D like, and save your money for the ranchers who will KNOW by then.
Have fun, Ree! It’s what it’s all about! And I so LOVE that you’re gonna open those doors. Heck, I might just have to leave Kentucky and see how REAL ranchers ranch.!!
Hey, I’m hungry for some Ranch Dressing all of a sudden. . .
October 27th, 2007 at 8:50 am
While all the comforts of home described in the 500+ posts before me, the most important thing to me is a wide open porch with a comfy, curl-up-in chair. Where I can sip my warm mug of coffee or glass of wine and just enjoy that wide open space while I breathe in the fresh air.
I don’t care what it looks like inside. Where do I sign on?
:J
October 27th, 2007 at 9:07 am
Hi Ree! I think that first, I wanna say that since you and MM have lived with the Lodge for so long, you see it with rather jaded eyes. For me, it looks wonderful! I totally agree that the bathrooms need to be re-worked (and you’ve got that down pat, now, don’t you!)and if you want new kitchen appliances, then go for it, but. . .
The two of you have got to decide what your ultimate goal will be. If you want a space where you can hold special events about things that are of interest to you, and you want to keep this from being a full time, gotta hire more help, never have any time for yourself thing, you’ll need to upgrade with all of the perks.
Companies that are looking for a place to hold a retreat are looking for places with the internet connections, business amenities like fax and copier and the place must be just “sexy” enough to convince their employees that they’re going to some place special.
Your readers, by and large, would love to have the Ranch experience and I think, would appreciate a place that is more rustic. I view your pictures and feel like I’d be going someplace that had that “home away from home” feel. That’s what I’d be looking for. I’d want to hang out with you and MM and the kids, learn to cook some of your delicious recipes or attend a PhotoShop workshop or some other “special” PW event and go home feeling like I’ve visited a good friend.
The responses above mostly have to do with accoutrements, not the actual design of the lodge (internet, good linens, candles, etc). Replace the baths and re-work the kitchen, keep all the light and feature it, while remembering that to cool or heat a place that size, when it has loads of windows runs up a big power bill, replace the porch/deck.
Remember, oh middle child, that you can’t be all things to all people. That having been said, you want to keep your expenses in line so that you don’t price out many of your readers because you’re trying to recoup all you’ve spent on the place.
At the end of the day, remember that if (though I don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance of it) this endeavor fails, you still want a place that your family will feel comfortable in and that you and your children won’t be paying for in perpetuity.
Love ya Ree!
October 27th, 2007 at 9:27 am
Don’t forget wheelchair accessibility (ie. ramp, at least one large bathroom) I have an 8 year old wanna be cowboy that in a wheelchair and would LOVE to see the workings of your ranch. He dreams of being a horse trainer or real cowboy someday (but he is too afraid to pet our gelding who is just like your LB, LOL. Don’t tell him I told you that.) He is mostly happy just sitting on the sidelines and watching everyone do their thing. I know you and MM have a place in your hearts for people with special needs so don’t forget them.
October 27th, 2007 at 9:28 am
I wouldn’t get all ritzy…you did say LODGE?
Hubby and I fish, so we stay in lots of little one room cabins. But, we sleep there, we relax there. Maybe my opinion will not apply, but….
Our entertainment is not TV or internet, our entertainment is on the river until sundown. If you accomodate large groups that will have spare time to kill at the lodge then I would provide large comfy seating, swings and rockers on the deck, a pile of board games and a fire place.
If it’s a lodge, people won’t automatically bring their laptops. If they need it they’ll inquire, so my first thought on internet access….maybe.
The one big thing is a clean bathroom, with hot water and a good pressured shower. We avoid B&B’s because we both hate to share bathrooms. We like to get up when we want to get up and not have to share or wait for someone else. If you don’t have sufficient bathrooms for the number of guests, I would suggest adding some- I know that’s expensive with plumbing and all, but…..Oh, and I never soak in a tub that’s not mine, I just don’t.
Coffee, coffee, coffee…..a must and a large pan of Ree’s cinnamon rolls!
That’s my 2 cents, judging from the number of posts above mine, you didn’t need it, but I rambled on anyway.
Good luck in your venture….
October 27th, 2007 at 9:37 am
Are you taking advance bookings? I think everyone else said it nicely, but I didn’t see bunk beds…or maybe I did, I am up way too early for a Saturday morning. Bunk beds are always fun for kids.
Oh, and lots of your photos are a definite yes, yes, yes!
A nice bathtub is a necessity, but as long as it has hot water, it really doesn’t need jets. There is too much maintenance with those. Also, I’m addicted to the Internet, but I could do without WI-FI. If I am going to a ranch in the middle of nowhere, I want to be completely disconnected, including no satellite TV.
I can’t wait to see how this project progresses. Good luck!
October 27th, 2007 at 9:44 am
Retreat site for various groups. I could see the lodge being used for a writers workshop, photography workshop, or for me a favorite would be for a knitting camp. I’ve also attended a quilters retreat in a rustic setting (northern Michigan) that was great. The idea is to be able to get away from home and focus on learning new techniques with like minded folks. Your ranch would be a great place to get away from the busy world. Skip the TV, internet, phone access. I’d rather spend the time taking a walk and seeing a bit of the farm. Or at least sit on the porch and watch the sunset.
October 27th, 2007 at 10:09 am
I’d pay a whole lot more if you would let me sleep in past the butt-crack of dawn… : )
October 27th, 2007 at 10:10 am
I admit to not reading every on of the entries - so consider this a vote for something that I’m sure that someone else has already said.
Keep the lodge feel - part of your draw is the country and the atmosphere. Covered porches with comfy chairs, a crackling fire on a cold evening in a stone fireplace. Go for comfort… down topped mattresses, good sheets. Get rid of leaks, anything that might be true country - like insects, leaks, dirt… because folks want the concept, not the reality.
I vote for having technology available, but not overtly so. Wireless for the folks that can’t be parted from their laptops, perhaps a workstation secluded somewhere in the lodge. I wouldn’t worry about cell phone coverage if it isn’t there - providing wireless should meet that need. Keep things like TV’s in common areas so that people can have peace in their own rooms, but can experience a more family atmosphere elsewhere.
My vote goes to putting your money towards bathroom upgrades. Don’t make it looks so new that its modern - but make it charming and make sure the details work. i.e. good water pressure, lots of hot water, toilets that don’t run or need handle jiggles. I didn’t catch how many bathrooms there are in the house - but perhaps setting it up so that there are shower or bath rooms, with seperate water closets for the toilets would add to the lodge charm. Also would make things more accessable to more people more of the time.
And I’ll vote with some of the rest, even though I live on a farm, I’d be happy to come visit yours. Specially if I didn’t have to get up at the crack of dawn to feed… but could wander into the kitchen in my bunny slippers and take a fresh coffee out on to the porch to watch your flat land wake up.
You MUST keep us posted on this.
October 27th, 2007 at 10:13 am
I agree with post no.483
Under NO circumstance would I open the ranch up to a bunch of cowgirl and cowboy wantabees. If you have a situation that is working why change it?
The stress involved could create problems for everyone working with your current operation. Think of your children, MM and the relationship that he has with his brother. Would this create future family problems?
Put a new roof on the lodge to stop any further damage. It is much to beautiful of a structure to loose.
The best of luck to all.
October 27th, 2007 at 10:28 am
I’d agree with the people who said nice hot shower - not having to worry about everyone else there using all the hot water. Nice comfy bed. AND the ability to make the bedroom really dark if I didn’t want to get up before the sun or even with the sun.
October 27th, 2007 at 10:53 am
Hi Ree,
Oh goody! See, when I first emailed you about your blog and told you to do a B&B - others followed that line of thinking. You already have the ‘Lodge’ so you already have a good start.
1. No weird smells! That is a huge turnoff…
2. The bathroom - update to white or light colored toilet, shower, sink. Normal faucets are fine, GOOD lighting, a medicine cabinet (so you can actually unpack the toiletry bag) and a good mirror (so the kids can see too in order to clean up. Warm colors on walls - maybe a theme for towel racks, etc. Wrought iron or horses, etc. Doesn’t have to be expensive items, but matching and looking new is nice. CLEAN is so important in the bathroom. Working plumbing, doesn’t have to be fancy, but having the whirlpool tub or a fancy showerhead is always a WOW factor when staying someplace.
3. For the size of the “lodge”, perhaps more than one bathroom…or at least a powder room.
4. If you were catering to a ‘get away’ crowd. A hot tub outside on the deck would be a huge plus!
5. Kitchen: Working appliances…don’t have to be fancy and complicated - but once again ‘clean and working’. Have tea, coffee, creamer (real stuff in fridge) with appliances to make said drinks for the guests. Have basic appliances on hand in case guests would like to make toast or a snack or to cook for themselves if they chose to bring their own food.
6. Linens…yes, nice sheets that FIT the beds are a GREAT touch. Doesn’t have to be extravagant and fancy..solid color sheet sets are fine - or go with a theme for a room if you want to make it funner. Nice - not scratchy towels, washcloths, etc. Provide extra set in lodge unless you had staff to run some over in case of spills, accidents, etc.
7. A laundry facility or option to have laundry done maybe a nice option - considering if you were having guests ride horses, etc. (that smell will linger in a suitcase for a bit)
8. A decent mattress and different types of pillows - some people can’t sleep on a feather pillow, etc. So, latex foam, polyester fill, etc. would be a really nice offering.
Email me if you need more ideas….although, I’m sure after all these comments from everyone - you won’t! Stayed at a cottage this summer for a vacation get away… they tried to have it feel like home - books, dvd player (no cable), wireless internet, dining room table, normal bathroom and bedrooms - but there was a smell of musty, dusty and perhaps animal tinkle…ugh.
October 27th, 2007 at 10:54 am
That would be AWESOME if you opened up a bed and breakfast type of place. I think you should keep the lodge as ranch/country authentic as possible. Bathrooms do need to be updated but not to spa specifications or anything like that. Just normal renovation. If you were planning on giving cooking lessons then I would say yes to the gourmet/cook’s kitchen. On the other hand I think some good ole homestyle country cooking would be the best way to go. You can’t really go wrong with that kind of food! For the bedrooms I think normal renovation/updating would be the way to go. Photography tours, a chance to participate in ranch activities, a chance to drool over MM
sound like an awesome weekend. I would just keep in mind during the renovations the price you would be charging for the weekends. The amenities you provide will dictate the cost. I would try to keep the cost reasonable so normal people like me can still come and enjoy your beautiful ranch.
October 27th, 2007 at 11:49 am
Good water pressure, fresh & clean water, thread count doesn’t matter since I don’t really like sheets. Ceiling fans, cozy nooks for curling up and reading, self-guided tours of the property and surrounding areas, internet access would be nice, but honestly? Don’t we all go on vacation to LOSE the stress of our everyday lives!? Cell phone service would be nice, but also, if there isn’t, a working number at The Lodge in case of emergencies outside of our getaway. Communal meals would be FABULOUS, and who needs 7 courses!? We’re on a RANCH in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, for crying out loud! Food that fits the atmosphere would be fabulous, as long as you promise to make luscious desserts.
October 27th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Great dining table. I think you have plenty of ideas/help with the updating of the actual lodge. If you are actually going to do a cooking/food oriented project, um, well, no reddi-whip. ever. your recipes are just a little too “younger boomer mid-western I watch food network family style” to draw guests for the food.
October 27th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
The one thing I see that I would like is more natural light. Open up the place with sky lights or big picture windows showing off the beautiful view of your ranch.
I would come for cooking with Ree lessons, conversations with an fantastic family and the view! How is spring time for you all!!
I agree about a strong shower and comfy bed. But that is what JC Penney is for!
Have fun!
October 27th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Obv DSL or at the very least Verizon (or I think Sprint has now too) cellular internet service…. I guess check those speeds vs. your DirecTV connection, which seems kind of unreliable. Need to knock out walls, probably the entire front of the house starting at the hallway and add about 1,000 square feet, to expand the bathrooms and bedrooms. New beds, with at least two king or queens, and obv all new linens. Gut the kitchen and do it similar to yours. Yeah this is all very expensive but think about the revenues. It will all pay for itself. Also, I will need a small house, new please with amenities, if I’m going to move up there and run this business 40 weeks a year. Hmmm, sounds a lot better than the 13-hour days I work now….
October 27th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
oh yeah… and raze the porch and expand out like 5-7 feet… at the far end, a concrete slab for the hottub (I donate)… if it is shielded by walls and cover, I should work better than it did at your house….
October 27th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
water pufication system and backup power generator.
October 27th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
I can’t read all the other comments, so will just add mine. I would like at least a few rooms for people like me who would need a single room, not shared with anyone. Plenty of hot water, plenty of showers so that people don’t have to stand in line for too long.
Indoor spaces for people who want to get away, far away, from technology, who don’t want to hear cell phones ringing or TV or anything that would infringe on the quiet. A dedicated area for cell phone users that is mandatory if you wanna talk on your cell. Because when people talk on cell phones, I don’t want to hear your conversations. If I’m at the Lodge, I am there for peace and quiet.
Areas where one can escape to quiet, areas where we can participate with others if we want to.
I have been on a couple of retreats at the same B and B where the food was good but everyone stayed hungry because the portions were so small; not saying we have to be stuffed, but more than tiny portions would be wonderful.
Probably everyone else has mentioned what would be great for me.
October 27th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
HaHa - Sounds like you have a manager. Would he be easy for the help to get along with?
October 27th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Comfy beds, chairs and sofas. INTERNET ACCESS, wireless preferably, and enough tables/chests/nightstands to hold computers and camera gear in addition to the usual traveling stuff. Truly almost all of what you already have looks fine. It could be renovated with minimal costs by doing the repairs (water damage, sagging porch) then just sprucing up with paint, slipcovers, bedding, simple moldings & new hardware (new look on the cabinet doors!), simple “tile-overs” like bath counters, half walls (for ease of cleaning) and simple small walk in showers to replace the drop in shower units already there. A few extra large green indoor plants to bring it “alive” can do a lot too. I don’t think you need to invest in a major rip out and renovation to make the place cozy, comfy, welcoming and relaxing. I don’t see what is wrong with the existing kitchen appliances - ranges look fine, surely there is an oven or two, a sink, refrigerator and microwave? If they work, are not too shabby looking, what else is needed/why replace them?
If you want to splurge, a beautiful extra deep wooden soaking/hot tub/with jets (like a huge vat) on the porch could be very cool. You could make a small enclosed area for it so you can keep the temperature high enough to not freeze but also brisk enough so it’s a thrill to use it in the cooler months. Want to go even fancier? Add an adjacent communal super deluxe bath with one of those steam units, multi head showerhead bars on 2 or 3 sides as well as a private soaking tub. Guests could sign up for the fancy bathroom by the hour OR you could hire/contract a massage therapist/spa attendent and have them run the room, charging for their (at least some) services separately when the lodge has guests.
Still after that flight of fancy on an indulgent bath daydream, with what you have now, it would be really just fine IMO after a good repair/spruce up job - no super perks are really necessary. If you go the prudent route of repair/spruce up only, the only thing I’d seriously consider investing in are padded armless dining room chairs WITH BACKS to replace those benches (they can go out on the porch against the wall so they will serve as supportive chairs there - e.g. - sitting on the porch in the afternoon, after a long day of fun….). No one who is out photographing, riding the range, cooking, etc. all day long will be comfortable hanging out and bonding at the nice big table after the meal is finished without a chair back. Those tables are fine for feeding a big group (ranch workers) fast and efficiently and nudging them on their way back to work (don’t get too comfy). The problem is they encourage people to get up and go back to work when that’s counter to retreat mode. Not great for fostering community either. For groups, the big dinner table is a common place to gather at the end of the day after the meal to talk and plan and share, so make it comfy and inviting.
October 27th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
i came upon this late so you probably won’t even see or need it buti would want A nice shower, and bed, w/ internet access, meals, separate or together would be awesome in that order some tours group activities alone time some all girl groups some couples groups:> all covered in local color but not too much “orange” tee hee:>
October 27th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
The most important thing is that there is comfortable space for people to be together in groups and also space for them to be by themselves. Comfortable matresses are probably my number one priority along with rooms that are generally quiet at night. Everything else is just perks. Fireplaces in the bedrooms are wonderful as are sleep number mattresses that allow people to adjust the bed to their level of comfort. ATV’s, bicycles, or some way that people can “explore” a bit on their own is also a nice way to add balance to the group activities. Internet access would be nice but not essential. Even a single shared computer with access would work, as it is a retreat (presumably not a business retreat!). A snack fridge or location where you would feel free to help yourself would also be a good idea. Overall, I’m sure people will be thrilled just to come and hang out with you guys!
October 27th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
dang. ree. all i can say is the lodge is bigger than my house and i wanna move there
October 27th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
I love the Lodge and want to sign up for a visit too! I don’t think I have anything to add that everyone else hasn’t said, but…
Definitely have internet and satellite access and a DVD player. Anyone who doesn’t want to use it, doesn’t have to, but the majority of the population who does want it can have it. I also like the snack/fridge options for cold drinks and munchies. Horse back riding is a must! Go for the “nature” look in decorating and I definitely vote for a nice big porch to relax on.
October 27th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Great stuff… Warm water and internet connection of course… All the rest is optional and the cherry on the desert…
When can we come? And will the price be reasonable… There is a lot of photography courses out there, lots of groups out there, but they are all so expensive… It would be nice to for once find something that I can actually pay…
October 27th, 2007 at 4:50 pm
Internet access? Very much so.
Satellite TV? not as important as the internet
Spa treatments? Lovely, but far from vital
Seven-course meals? four is pleanty!
Jacuzzi? mmmmh, nice
If you gave guided trail rides you could net in the dude ranch market (nothing fancy, set up beginner, intermediate and advanced ie new rider, walk/trot, and walk/trot/canter/gallop)
for families with small children have a couple bottle babie calves that are tame enough to be mauled by kiddies (city kiddies, different breed :D)
do the most rehauling on the bathrooms, people tend to judge this sort of thing on three points, the food (I don’t see you having a problem there) the beds, and the bathrooms. I would recomend a slightly vintage look with warm dark paneling, but thats just me.
October 27th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
Lots of hot water (we just installed a tankless water heater and love it), large tubs w/jets, and comfortable beds. What more could you ask? You would have well-rested, happy guests with all the kinks soaked out.
I think you should expect the European market to respond. It’s amazing how many Europeans seek out places like yours. Friends near Roundup, Montana, have a bed and breakfast in their ranch home. The last time I talked to them, their guests were from Germany. They said they were surprised to find most of their guests were European.
October 27th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
In terms of hosting groups, I’d say:
Yes to internet - especially if you’re talking City-Slicker-esque retreats where there might be roping steers in between PowerPoint presentations and (heaven forbid) task force meetings.
No to TVs in the rooms. But a central TV in case (heaven forbid) there is a GAME that must be WATCHED. Then again, if you get a deal on a bunch of small LCDs, some people can’t relax with the tv. I’m one of those people who can’t relax WITH a tv so you don’t necessarily have to listen to me.
Bathrooms? Bathrooms need updating, but there’s easy ways to get a spa-look without spending huge money. Larger tiles in earth tones, toilets that aren’t teal blue (or is that seafoam green?), newer shower doors - and big floofy towels can go a long way.
But in terms of the two areas in which you have the most to offer, I’d focus on internet & power and the kitchen.
Internet & Power (i.e. electrical wiring, if needed) allows you to host photography classes and Photoshop seminars with folks on laptops, which could be a huge draw to groups of people.
Kitchen: you can host cooking demos, classes, or just huge groups of mass feeding of people. Either way, I think it’s a great idea, and if you build it, they will come. No question.
October 27th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
The house looks great to me!
We go to a guest ranch every year with our kids and our favorite part is the fire pit outside with plenty of firewood. There are logs around the fire pit for sitting on to roast marshmallows or sing or tell stories.
October 27th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
WITH A VIEW LIKE THAT, JUST GIVE ME A COMFORTABLE BED, HOT WATER, THE PORCH AND A ROCKING CHAIR. I FEEL THE SOUND OF SILENCE COMES WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE. BEAUTIFUL, AND SURELY A TREAT FOR EACH VISITOR.
October 27th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Ree–If you want to see an example of this kind of thing done really well, look at Berry Springs Lodge in Gatlinburg. The owners live onsite, and the place is PERFECT. Every detail is just right. Also, the owners might have something to tell you about what it’s like to share their little corner of paradise with guests.
October 27th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Hey Ree,
My dh has gone to alot of these types of places, and I’m a photographer, so here’s what we think!
Internet, hottubs, nice duvets and very comfy beds…private bathrooms, these are all things that would be important to us. Robes would be nice…all just really comfortable and warm and cozy…
Comfy lounge area, couches, etc, fireplace…can’t wait to come visit when you get things worked out!
PS - I’m just loving your story of your courtship with Marlboro Man…
October 27th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
If you’d let me live there full time I’d keep it up for you. Wow.
Important things: That view, mostly
Then: access to coffee, tea, muffins, etc. 24/7
Private jacuzzi tubs
Roomy, just right beds
Wireless internet
Satellite TV (I’m an addict)
Lots of paperback books - maybe your!!
October 27th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Ree, if you’re thinking of turning the lodge into a bed and breakfast, I’m there! I grew up camping with little or no amenities so I’m easy….give me a comfy bed, running water, a pretty view and hot coffee in the morning and I’m a happy girl.
If you’re seriously considering making some changes, make sure you don’t lose that rustic charm…knotty pine, hardwood and stone are the perfect elements for a lodge. Definitely redo those bathrooms and stick with hints from Mother Nature. I’d also suggest losing the carpeting in the bedrooms and finding some great rag rugs and log furniture.
Think you’ll have it finished by the third week in June 2008? I hear the wild Mustangs a-callin’ me!
October 28th, 2007 at 1:33 am
Oh, girlfriend, let me tell you:
Internet, TV, phone - no, no, no. I’m thinking GETAWAY, not making it feel like my local Starbucks.
A giant, winding porch with rocking chairs where I could sit and stare at the view, read a book, check out some cowboy Josh - oh yeah.
A comfy bed to sleep off all that horseback ridin’ - perfect.
Good luck. I will be first in line to sign up!
October 28th, 2007 at 2:31 am
Old Simplicity
Crisp Cleanliness
Natural Warmth
Internet Access
October 28th, 2007 at 7:44 am
don’t do it…. time is precious and you have a great thing going now…. this would impact everyone… no more peeing out the back door and window treatments in every room to block out the peepers. Maybe when the children are older, but now is their time and your’s….. so keep it simple and use the lodge for family with the future in mind… it’ll be here before you know it.
October 28th, 2007 at 11:38 am
WOW! Your ranch would be a fab place to vacation. We appreciate a comfy bed and clean bathroom with adequate water pressure and a shower that my 6′2″ hubby doesn’t have to bend his knees to get wet in. I would suggest that wifi, internet connections be limited to meeting room and bedrooms. It would be difficult to enjoy sitting in a community area while everyone you were excited about meeting fiddles with their laptops. Would also suggest a week or two set aside for childless folks, singles or couples since although I love the little critters, ours are grown and we’re enjoying not having to deal with the issues related to tired/cranky children or surly teens who want to stay up most of the night, sleep most of the day, with the in-between time spent in front of the computer or anywhere their parents aren’t. We lived through that once and revel in the knowledge that our children are now PERFECT - just don’t want to experience it again at any distance! Love the cooking class idea since hubby and I both enjoy trying new recipes. A working day on the ranch could be fun too - I volunteer for anything that doesn’t involve riding a horse. My last experience involved the horse’s (a) jumping a stream followed by bucking; (b) trying to dislodge me by scraping my leg against a fence; (c) failing that, trying to thwack my head on the corner of the barn roof. Lacked appeal to say the least… although I must say the horse was consistent!
October 28th, 2007 at 11:57 am
What a beautiful place. I would want to be away from the t.v., and spa stuff is too precious for a ranch retreat. However sitting in a hot tub looking at that view on a cool autumn evening would be pretty relaxing and memorable (and soothing for aching behinds new to horse riding)!
Home style cooking, comfy beds and warm showers are a given for putting folks up- assuming you’re not trying to get rid of them.
October 28th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
If I could be so fortunate as to stay at your ranch, I, like Linda, would appreciate a comfy bed, clean bathrooms (style wouldn’t matter!), roomy showers with adequate water pressure and lots of hot water. I would feel honored to stay at the Lodge as it is now! A few rocking chairs on the balcony or porch would be great. And no TV…although one of those old-time radios would be cool. I guess in this day and age you’d need wireless Internet service. A spa? Nah.
October 28th, 2007 at 7:18 pm
Commentator No. 572, I aagree with you.
October 28th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
I think the most important things are:
1. Super-comfy bed with soft and plentiful blankets. I want to look forward to getting into the bed at night.
2. Spacious and bright bathroom. Nothing creeps me out more than shower stalls and dim corners in bathrooms.
3. It would be nice to sit on the porch over looking the gorgeous view, maybe in some nice rocking chairs, or a porch swing. The view is amazing, guests will want to soak it up.
4. Internet (for no extra charge) is essential! Part of relaxing for me is going online. I’d be stressed without it!
5. TV isn’t so important, but a good selection of DVDs to watch late-night or on a rainy day is important.
6. Golf carts are good for large places, gives more accessibility for lazy folk and the elderly and such.
7. A firepit for roasting marshmallows or pigs, for burning evidence, for whatever!
October 28th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
ree, I just had to pause to express my jealousy over the Lodge. One of my dreams is to host art retreats. One of the reasons I want to escape this asses to elbows town is to own a huge chunk of land and build a place where I can host retreats for collage and intuitive art. I think with a bit of work The Lodge could be resplendent. Once it’s done I think you should host a contest to give away slots to it’s grand opening retreat. Me and my punks wanna crash your ranch!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:39 am
I wanna come!! I travelled to Argentina in spring this year and stayed at the guesthouse of one of those huge sheep farms in Patagonia. It was by far the nicest place we stayed at during our holiday. Here’s what I liked best about it:
- Cleanliness (any very basic accomodation is fine as long as it’s SPARKLING CLEAN)
- Comfy beds with warm blankets
- Wooden floorboards (there’s nothing more unhygienic than carpet in a hotel/guesthouse - stone would be good, too)
- a huge fireplace - perfect for pre-dinner (and after-dinner) drinks on cool evenings
- Great food (not seven courses, just normal food but very tasty)
- a pool table and board games (much more important than television. I quite like to block out the world for a few days sometimes. DVDs might be nice for rainy days)
- the possibility to watch some of the activities going on on the farm. In Patagonia, they did a sheep shearing demonstration and showed us how the dogs could round-up the sheep.
Anyway, I think you and Marlboro Man will do a great job! Good luck!
October 29th, 2007 at 10:08 am
I’m pretty outgoing, but when it comes to photography and such, I also like to be able to have alone time. A place or time to be on my own and not be social would be wonderful. It looks to be so beautiful where you live, I’d really like to do some good work(and a lot of it) if I was ever able to get there. The second thing is that I think computer access, preferably Mac, but not necessarily Internet, would be the biggest luxury. I like to put my work up on a screen at the end of the day and I don’t have a laptop. I’m not so sure that I want to spend time Photoshopping things unless it was a retreat/class specifically for that purpose.
I think that in the hospitality part of things you’ll do just fine whatever you come up with. I’ll stay tuned, this should be fun.
October 29th, 2007 at 10:21 am
Hi Ree,
This sounds like a great idea! Just my 2 cents… I would keep it simple. Just fix the things structurally that need it (roof, porch). The Lodge looks great already. Maybe just update the bathrooms and provide comfy beds and hot water.
I don’t think you need any of the spa treatments, jacuzzi tubs, etc. Just reflect your personality in the rooms. I would be looking to get away from it all so no TV, Internet, etc.
The draw for me would be seeing a real ranch in action (helping out where I could) and showing my son a real ranch. (We live in the suburbs.) Or coming for workshops like a photography weekend taught by you or a cooking class or two - just simple food, like learning to make your cinnamon rolls or grill techniques.
You could probably schedule several “workshops” a year and have it filled up for years just by your blog readers. I know I would love to come!
If you decide to pursue this and open it to the public, let us know and when to sign up!
Kristie
October 29th, 2007 at 10:22 am
I know I’m in the minority here, but — No Internet! Honestly, one of my favorite places to visit is Big Bend National Park here in Texas, and my favorite thing is that I can’t stay tethered to my computer and cell phone no matter how badly I think I need to check email.
Seriously, it’s great. It makes me enjoy the scenery and relaxation even more. Rather than my computer, we pack up some wine and some board games and entertain ourselves after dark that way (on the nights were weren’t sitting outside). It’s fabulous.
If you had to have internet access, maybe it shouldn’t be wireless. Set aside an “office” room with a computer or two, or places for laptops to be plugged in, where people who had to have access could go and plug in.
October 29th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Wow, what a response! You probably stopped reading after number 100, but here is my list:
1. Jacuzzi tub for two
2. Shower with dual heads-for two
3. nanny service for those of us who must bring our offspring
(paid by the hour of course)
4. snacks
5. Coffee!!! (doesn’t have to be Starbucks)
6. lush bath towels
7. bigger porch
8. cowboy decorating with your pics, or maybe a mix of your
pics and those cowgirl pinups, or ether merman pics haha
9. Activities to entertain the men while the woman are
doing something else, does Marlboro man hunt or fish? poker?
10.not interested in cooking, but love photography
11.the lodge is awesome already
12.firewood, marshmallows, smore makings…
13.hot cocoa
14. comfy bed and linens
Great idea, I already want to go!
14.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
I think it looks great now! Maybe fix up the porch, update the kitchen and update the bathrooms a litte. I would definitly stay in a place like that. My kids would love it!
October 29th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Oh, sign me up! All I would want is for it to feel authentic. Ranch like. With no feeling of a Holiday Inn at all. None of this crazy stuff people are saying here. Just what you would have in your own home. A place to escape the insanity. Someplace REAL.
October 29th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Yes! #572!! I have this HORRID fear that all our “write a book”, “make a movie”, “go on Oprah”, etc. etc. is just driving a knife in the heart of what we’re all adoring about Ree & her life! Now we’re headed into the heart of their lives w/this lodge! (Yes! I love lodges w/the best of them–it’s EXACTLY where my family goes while on vacation–but this your HOME!) If you would take the “advice” of all of us crazy people, you’re whole lift that we adore reading about will cease to be! Marlboro Man will lose his adoring wife and the beautiful little Punks will never cease their Mama, because she’ll be off traveling somewhere or other ALL the time.
Wait until you retire to turn this lodge into your dream! Love and care for this little ones while you have them w/you!
Gulp! WHO ask ME?????
October 29th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
Horrors! I got on such a “preach”, I can’t even spell!!!
Corrections: you’re whole LIFE (not lift) that we adore reading about will cease to be! Marlboro Man will lose his adoring wife and the beautiful little Punks will never SEE (not cease) their Mama, because she’ll be off traveling somewhere or other ALL the time.
Wait until you retire to turn this lodge into your dream! Love and care for THOSE (not this) little ones while you have them w/you!
October 30th, 2007 at 9:01 am
cool place !!! I am a mom of two mid aged kiddos. i work full time. I like nice, but comfy things. I think a few things woule be updated comfy new couches. Soft pillows and some throws. A new, rocking front porch. A porch swing. The bathrooms don’t have to be huge, but plush and nice. Soft beds, nice thread count, and cool pillows are a must. No tv’s in rooms. but WIFI A MUST !!!!
October 30th, 2007 at 10:23 am
take a look at the porches in north adams, mass. its an inn made from 19th century converted mill workers housing.
www.porches.com
replicate their unbeleivable bathrooms. and similar to the way they have the indusctrial chic vibe goin’ on, you should go with your own style of ranch chic…all your awsome cowgirl pin up illustrations, your photographs on the walls…
i would love to come!
October 30th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
My husband and I have embarked on the same thing you are about to a few years back. My husband was the former ranch manager of a ranch in Imnaha Oregon before it sold. We turned the main house into a retreat for the ranch owner, guests and hunters. It was a lot of work but very rewarding. This is what I saw. The most important thing once you get the structure sound is to have:
• Good down home cooking (nothing fancy) in large portions. You would be amazed at how a little person can put the groceries away in the country.
• Atmosphere is the next thing. Fireplaces are a must even if the are the propane type. Large over stuffed furniture of the western style to curl up in and relax.
• Good bathrooms I agree with the rest of the people. Nobody wants to go backwards on that. If you can arrange to have each room with their own bathroom is the best.
• Since you plan to have cooking events I recommend expanding the kitchen with a large bar with seating all around it so you can demonstrate your great home cooking techniques to everyone and get them involved. 2 Double ovens are something I think make life a lot easier with large crowds also. Industrial size fridge and freezer also a must.
• Western art on the walls – Classics are always good but I enjoy the pictures I have taken or someone else blown up and matted. Brandings, cattle, horses and kids make great pictures to have matted and framed. This is one of my passions.
• A game room is always good. Lots of board games, cards, ect. I also suggest you have a portion of that room with a TV in it for those who are having withdrawals. Your choice if it’s hooked up to the rest of the world but at least have some movies for them to watch.
I have many more suggestions but those are the basics.